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Old 01-16-2008, 11:51 PM   #1
 
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I noticed this morning that my clown fish had these white like dots on him looked like mini white cotton balls or something.. Is this real bad and if so what kind of Medz should I use to cure it..
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Old 01-17-2008, 06:53 AM   #2
 
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First, I need to know a bit more about your tank. The appropriate methods for curing a problem vary greatly depending on your livestock and other considerations.

Please Read this: http://www.fishforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=1802

in the meantime, try to obtain a photo of your fish and/or google "Marine Ich" and see if that looks like your problem.

If you have any corals or other inverts (snails, crabs, ect) in the tank, you may need to invest in a 10 gallon quarantine tank.

If your fish does in fact have marine ich, you may also want to add a UV Sterilizer for a few weeks. this will kill off the ich

Regardless of the problem, you MUST seek out the cause of the problem and correct that. If you have marine Ich, it is because your fish is stressed that it suffers from this problem. Ich is ever present in most aquariums, fresh and salt alike. A stressed fish enables the parasite to host. This is true with most fungal infections as well, a healthy fish has a slime coating that protects the fish from such problems.
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Old 01-17-2008, 02:03 PM   #3
 
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Great advice, and I will also watch this thread and offer any help/suggestions that may be needed. Until we know the details of your tank, there isn't much anyone can do.
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Old 01-17-2008, 03:27 PM   #4
 
It is a 12g nano tank everything is built in..Tank has been running for about a month now, just got the fish 3 days ago.. He looks like he's ok and happy and he still eats... I think when my wife got him she said he looked like he had the little white cotton balls on him..
water temp 82
ph 8.2
no2 0ppm
ammonia 0ppm
no3 0ppm to 5.0ppm
Hope the is enough information..
Thanks
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:27 PM   #5
 
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The water params look ok, the temp is a bit high for standard keeping of a clown fish, but if this is an outbreak of ick, that will help to speed up the life cycle of the parasite.
Is there anyway to post pictures of your fish? White cottony things doesn't sound like ick, it sounds like a fungal infection, which could also be feeding on a bacterial infection.
The first mistake is in purchasing a sick fish in the first place, and I would highly suggest calling the store where it was purchased and asking what they plan to do to help you with it. Unfortunately, most places won't offer any help, they expect the customer to recognize and not choose sick animals. You might try pointing out that it is bad business to sell a sick animal and then abandon the customer. Some stores will offer to take a fish back, some will help you with medications, water testing, etc until its well...

Are there any other animals in this tank? What kind of substrate is in the tank? How much live rock and decoration? I'll need to know as much about your fish and your tank as possible to figure out what exactly the problem is and then how best to treat it. If there are other animals in the tank, I would highly suggest using a quarantine tank. Things like inverts (corals, shrimp, crabs, snails, etc) are very sensitive to meds used to treat fish illness, and its very easy to wipe out a healthy tank with 1 sick animal and the meds it needs to get well.

I will watch this thread closely and offer any/all help I can. In the future, you may want to advise your wife to not purchase sick animals, and teach her what to look for so she can recognize it. If you need help on how to spot signs of illness before purchase, let me know and I can make you a list of things to look for.
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Old 01-17-2008, 06:42 PM   #6
 
Thanks for all the help. I went back to the pet store and saw that the tank my wife purchased the clown fish from was being treated with medz.. I can't remember what the guy was using but he said it was like tetra something medz.. I'll have to call back..

As far as what we have in the tank is just that clown and a small little hermit crab that we caught at the beach. we have some small coral rocks and some fake anenemies. Thats what I was told that clow fish like, So they can hide behind them...
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:13 PM   #7
 
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Let me know what the meds turn out to be, I can probably figure a pretty accurate guess of what they were treating for once I know what's in the medication. You might also want to ask (and write down a list) for the active ingredients in the med they are using.

Lesson learned... never buy a sick fish.

Can you post any pics of the fish and the crab? I'm curious about the crab because some "tiny" crabs can grow into large carnivorous crabs... and I'd hate to hear from you in 6 months to find out it ate your fish! If I have a pic and know where you picked it up, I can probably identify it for you pretty easily.

Oh, and btw, the meds will likely kill a crab... you may want to consider a way to seperate them during treatment. I can help you create a small environment for the crab that would sustain it for up to about a wk to allow your med treatment in the main tank. If you need it, let me know.
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:35 AM   #8
 
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Let me know what the meds turn out to be, I can probably figure a pretty accurate guess of what they were treating for once I know what's in the medication. You might also want to ask (and write down a list) for the active ingredients in the med they are using.

Lesson learned... never buy a sick fish.

Can you post any pics of the fish and the crab? I'm curious about the crab because some "tiny" crabs can grow into large carnivorous crabs... and I'd hate to hear from you in 6 months to find out it ate your fish! If I have a pic and know where you picked it up, I can probably identify it for you pretty easily.

Oh, and btw, the meds will likely kill a crab... you may want to consider a way to seperate them during treatment. I can help you create a small environment for the crab that would sustain it for up to about a wk to allow your med treatment in the main tank. If you need it, let me know.
Here is a Picture of the crab you wanted to see and the pic of the clown fish... The pic of the clown fish isn't of the best of quality but if you look good you can see the big spot under his eye's


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Old 01-18-2008, 02:39 AM   #9
 
Oh yeah, forgot to ask what that little crab eats?? I've been trying to feed him flakes but i guess he dont like it..
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Old 01-18-2008, 04:35 AM   #10
 
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I'll have to do some research to identify that crab before I can tell you what it eats. Chances are it will be a scavenger, eating things that fall to the bottom.
I see one issue with the crab... the substrate. Is that crushed coral or gravel at the bottom? Without a sandbed, the crab may have a very difficult time getting to his food... being used to eating things that fall to the bottom.
With such a coarse substrate, anything that falls to the bottom will end up burried beneath the rock that is too heavy for the crab to move or dig into. I would strongly suggest if you are planning to work with reef animals that you consider replacing your substrate with live sand instead. Other inverts such as shrimp, crabs, anemones, starfish, etc are not going to be able to survive in such a coarse substrate, plus there is a lot of biological benefit to using live sand. It will keep things like cyano bacteria blooms (a maroon velevt that can take over and suffocate anything beneath it, including corals and anything on the rock). Cyano blooms can be very difficult to get rid of once they start.

As for the clownfish, the picture is not clear enough to really be able to see much. I will ask for you to keep trying, 1 good closer up picture, clear enough to see what is wrong, should be enough to offer some help.
Watch your water params! A sick fish needs really clean water to promote healing. Offer healthy food choices, but not too much at once. Things like brine shrimp (either live or frozen... make sure to completely thaw frozen foods for at least 15 - 20 minutes before feeding), mysis shrimp, Spectrum pellets, formula 1 frozen food... all an important part of the fish's diet. Offer a different food at each feeding, no more than once/day and what the fish can finish in about 1 - 2 minutes. Don't leave a lot of uneaten food at the bottom for the crab, as you don't want the added waste levels. Chances are you won't get every last bit of extra food out, so the crab should be able to find something to eat once the right kind of food is found. I have found marine flake food to be quite messy and not often eaten well by the fish. The spectrum pellet food would make for a better constant diet, just a few pellets at a time until the fish is full or over the course about about 2 minutes.

I will consult my books and see what I can find out for you about the crab. It appears to be a species of hermit... where was it found and picked up from?
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