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Old 04-27-2009, 11:32 PM   #21
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yea if the things working for you why change it. ive just heard that these skimmers could be better.
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Old 04-28-2009, 02:57 PM   #22
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Oh, I apologize. It sounded as if you were speaking from experience, rather than just regurgitating information you read somewhere else.
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Old 04-28-2009, 06:16 PM   #23
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I've never used it before either, but i can send you to many many members in my club that have used it and absolutely hated it if you want a personal ref en regards
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:16 PM   #24
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The thing works fine, and I have given reason as to why it works. It skims good, has easy adjustments, and is easy to clean. Neither person posting about how they don't like it have given reason as to why. Just these "friend of a friend doesn't like it" stories. I would prefer someone who has PERSONALLY had a problem with it to post about the problem.

Too many times on these internet forums there are people not speaking from experience, but from something they read; someone else's opinions. The idea of these forums is share our OWN experiences to help each other. For example, how can I honestly testify that a certain light has electrical problems if I have never experienced these problems? I simply couldn't.

And if people are so dead set against this skimmer, than why don't they suggest one TO use? (I am going to predict that the more expensive units get recommended here, because price OBVIOUSLY dictates quality)

A proper way to have addressed my post (in which I was only trying to HELP the OP from my personal experience) would have been as follows: "I personally use the Berlin X2 skimmer, I like its turbo injector option...etc."

I did like that 1f2f directed the OP towards a refractometer instead of a hydrometer. Since I have no experience with refractometers, I just suggested what I use.

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Old 04-28-2009, 10:53 PM   #25
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word of mouth is communication. the way i see it is, the more people post the more new ideas get introduced and points of view.

as for the skimmer, yes i have heard that it could have better skimming capabilities. ive even seen it in person. that is why i steered away from buying it, i read about things to make a smart purchase. price isnt always quality but alot of times you get what you pay for. my skimmer is no where near the price of $1,000 ones which id love to have but still does a great job. its an MRC-MR2 skimmer and i have options to upgrade to all sorts of ways. i also have an ASM which seemed to work well, and an MTC skimmer. i really like the cone skimmers, but they arnt cheap.
as for the hydrometer and refractometer, spending the $20 or so dollars for it is a must if you keep saltwater IMO because its way more accurate.
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Old 04-29-2009, 08:16 AM   #26
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Is there some number of milliliters of skimmate a week a skimmer should produce? Or should I have to empty the collection cup a certain number of times?

I have it set on the lowest setting, and get a cup full of dark skimmate once a week. I am generally happy with it. It works good as an in-sump model, like I have it.

I unfortunately do not have a limitless supply of my parent's money to just go on a spending spree for my tank. I have to budget accordingly. I did a good job of this; I bought a new HO T5 unit (to replace the MH I was unhappy with), the skimmer, a new 3-stage timer, and an additional powerhead. I had to buy a new 15 gallon to use for a sump (I cracked the last one), and added a check valve to my pump. I was lucky to stay within my budget, but I am now unable to buy anything but essentials for the next few months. If I can scrape up a few bucks, I am going to buy a refractometer; I am ultimately saving for a RO/DI unit.

My major point is that this is a VERY expensive hobby, and I have other responsibilities (a house, 2 dogs, 2 cockatiels, a fiance...). I am not the only person who has to buy a less expensive skimmer so I can buy a nice lighting fixture, and fix a cracked component, etc... There is no reason to deter anyone from doing this. At least I am using a skimmer, even if your friends don't approve of it.
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Old 04-29-2009, 01:47 PM   #27
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I've never used it before either, but i can send you to many many members in my club that have used it and absolutely hated it if you want a personal ref en regards
I can get you to people in my local club that have had this issue. just let me know and i can have them pm you.

I have used skimmers by aquaC and love them. they aren't expensive and are well made. Another that's a bit more expensive is the EuroReef but are very effecient, even moreso then AquaC, are self cleaning.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:31 PM   #28
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What issue are you speaking of?

And I am not buying another skimmer for a good while, I am saving for a RO/DI unit. So I don't care about whoever has a reason to badmouth this skimmer. I did my homework and read dozens of online reviews, and still felt that this skimmer would be a good fit for me. I'm not sure if you read through my post, but this skimmer works great for me. This skimmer produces a dark skimmate, at least once a week. What else do I need a skimmer to do? Feed my fish? Heat my tank? It skims organic compounds at a decent rate.
It does its job.

At this point, it seems like someone is just bent on proving this is a bad piece of equipment. This skimmer is good for someone with the patience to set it up, and adjust it accordinagly after the break-in period. Maybe the people in your "reefing club" are just impatient. I don't know why you have such a vendetta against a skimmer that has done you no personal harm. It does me just fine.

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Old 04-29-2009, 09:27 PM   #29
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Wow, I go away for 2 days and the regulars are in disagreement over a simple issue. What gives on this?

Steve Austin is one of the long running experienced hobbyists who post on this forum. He uses the Coralife on his 75 gallon reef, with very clear success. Just look at his build thread. At the same time, he has on this same thread, expressed numerous complaints about the skimmer. Again, just read the build on his 75 gallon reef, which I linked earlier. He plans to upgrade, but sees no urgency.

Bottom line, the "user friendliness" of the skimmer often leads to complaints, but it is very adequate at doing its job, which is removing organic waste. I can express the same conclusion about the SeaClone skimmers, which I have personally used on many aquariums.
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:02 PM   #30
Angry 29 gal kit

I was at petco last night and i ran into one of these 29 gal "Saltwater water" Kits. The only thing that this kit has that you cant get in a fresh water kit is the salt water mix. Its realy sad that a big name pet store like Petco is selling this kit two new people looking to get into the hobby.

My sad sister payed for this kit lol poor girl all she wanted was a tank for a clown fish lol. When you open the kit there is a howe to guide only 6 pages long. So this kit is trying to take all the info i have learned in hafe a year and crame it into a 6 page howe to guide am i missing some thing. The howe to guide dose not have any info on skimmers and realy tells you two use tap water for your salt mix with no filter.

With kits out there like this no wounder people have a hard time in the Salt water Aquariums. My point is me being new two this hobby my self i feel when people fall for this type of scam. Look this gose out to any one new if you find a salt water kit for $400 dont get it you cant start any marien aquarium for 400. Do your home work and stay away from kits thats all you can do the KITS suck my sister paid all that money and the only thing in the kit she is going to use is the tank its self she could have gottin a nice 55 gal for that price.

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