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Old 06-02-2008, 04:43 PM   #11
 
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ok one question answered, 2 of my crabs died already as of today as i got home from work. i'll post pictures of my copper treatment it's just a generic one from my local pet store not specific name
Invertebrates normally can't handle copper. If you have a quarantine tank, you either need to remove the infected fish and treat them there, or remove the inverts and put them into a quarantine tank until the treatment is over.
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Old 06-02-2008, 07:59 PM   #12
 
do you have live rock or substrate in the tank? if so that live rock will never again be able to support invertebrate life because copper will leech out of it forever. Even a good bleaching will sometimes not get out all the copper out of the silicone seals in the corners.

also not a good idea to triple the copper treatment the bottle suggests.
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Old 06-02-2008, 11:22 PM   #13
 
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do you have live rock or substrate in the tank? if so that live rock will never again be able to support invertebrate life because copper will leech out of it forever. Even a good bleaching will sometimes not get out all the copper out of the silicone seals in the corners.

also not a good idea to triple the copper treatment the bottle suggests.
Another good point.

When a disease in a SW tank breaks out, it can be harder to treat than a FW tank.

Some info we may need is:

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Old 06-03-2008, 12:14 AM   #14
 
75 gallon tank
Temp 85 degree F
salinity 1.026
PH 8.0

i have a filter with 4 levels of filtration i forgot the sequence though i'm here at work, one level is carbon, the other is that white like hard rough stones that breaks if you squeeze them ? and the last one is that black plastic spiked balls, the last is the foam/cotton like layer.

also i have an under gravel filter that is run by an oxygen pump


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When a disease in a SW tank breaks out, it can be harder to treat than a FW tank.
wait so another question. for example, i have 8 fish in the tank and only two is infected, if i move the two to the quarantine tank ain't there more ich left swimming in the main tank that could infect the other 6 fish? would it be better if i cure the whole tank like i'm doing right now? just my observation, one gets each day after one fish dies. the ydon't get infected all at the same time and die at the same time
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Old 06-03-2008, 08:14 AM   #15
 
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wait so another question. for example, i have 8 fish in the tank and only two is infected, if i move the two to the quarantine tank ain't there more ich left swimming in the main tank that could infect the other 6 fish? would it be better if i cure the whole tank like i'm doing right now? just my observation, one gets each day after one fish dies. the ydon't get infected all at the same time and die at the same time
Not normally. I had a problem with ich before, and nothing else caught it after I moved the infected fish out. If you ever get the copper out of your tank I'd get a Cleaner Shrimp because (if I remember right) they'll clean all of that off your fish.
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:34 AM   #16
 
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the clown fish i was trying to focus on the video is the one that i saw with the ich, the video is 3 minutes after i dipped him in fresh water when the other of his kind just died and he started acting like that? what's wrong with him


Just imagine i dip you into a hot water, what will happen to you? shock, some of your internal organ might be burn.

You should get urself a quarantine compartment, where u treat the fish separate from others.
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:45 AM   #17
 
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the clown fish i was trying to focus on the video is the one that i saw with the ich, the video is 3 minutes after i dipped him in fresh water when the other of his kind just died and he started acting like that? what's wrong with him


Just imagine i dip you into a hot water, what will happen to you? shock, some of your internal organ might be burn.

You should get urself a quarantine compartment, where u treat the fish separate from others.
Correct. You'll probably want a 10-20g tank with filtration (either hang-on or sponge as a sump isn't needed.)
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:54 AM   #18
 
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Not normally. I had a problem with ich before, and nothing else caught it after I moved the infected fish out. If you ever get the copper out of your tank I'd get a Cleaner Shrimp because (if I remember right) they'll clean all of that off your fish.
i remember having 2 cleaner shrimps before, whenever they attemp to clean or get near any of my clownfish, the fish attacks them and the shrimps stay away .

my shrimps were like this http://frontpage.simnet.is/dna/Cleaner-shrimp.jpg they just dissapeared 4 months ago and never saw them again never saw their dead bodies too
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:06 AM   #19
 
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Not normally. I had a problem with ich before, and nothing else caught it after I moved the infected fish out. If you ever get the copper out of your tank I'd get a Cleaner Shrimp because (if I remember right) they'll clean all of that off your fish.
i remember having 2 cleaner shrimps before, whenever they attemp to clean or get near any of my clownfish, the fish attacks them and the shrimps stay away .

my shrimps were like this http://frontpage.simnet.is/dna/Cleaner-shrimp.jpg they just dissapeared 4 months ago and never saw them again never saw their dead bodies too
They may of been eaten.
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:12 AM   #20
 
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They may of been eaten.
hmmm interesting, the biggest fish i got on the tank is a black striped white clownfish that is an inch anda half long. is it possible that he is the one who ate 2 of my shrimps ?

also another qustion, one of my blue damsel has a wound on it's body, should i stop the copper treatment for a while ? or is it ok ?
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