Been going through Pasfurs "Marine fish compatibility, creating a stocking list" posting trying to formulate a plan. Let me start by thanking him for writing it. http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/s...ng-list-38579/
Being a complete newb, I found that thread very helpful and a good place for advice on how to come up with a list. My back story so far...I recently purchased a complete used 180G tank with a handful of fish and nearly everything I would need to get going. Most of the fish included I eventually wanted to include in my tank so I looked at it as an added bonus. I am new to this and will surely have some difficulty with all the different dynamics when it comes to applying specific fish dynamics to "my" list of desired tankmates. I hope I understood enough to not get flamed too much here but I really would appreciate constructive feedback on my ideas, whether good or bad.
I have spent the last 10 months doing tons of reading and research before finally buying this setup but I am still VERY green to all this. I am also suffering from a bit of information overload at this point. I purchased my tank and have been taking my time in getting it running. I have my build thread here. Warpig's 180 FOWLR Build
My tank has been up and the water and included live rock have been together in the tank for about three weeks circulating. My tank appears to be in the middle of a diatom bloom and the corraline algae is starting to show on some of my rocks but there are currently no fish in the tank as I am waiting for my
ammonia (.25ppm) and nitrate (20ppm) to drop. I am looking to get the clean up crew in there soon, another list I will need help with, but am trying to put together my stocking list as it will be time for that soon I hope as well. The fish that were included with my used setup are as follows. 1 Purple Tang
). 2 Regal Tangs (Paracanthurus hepatus
). 1 Tomato Clown (Amphiprion frenatus
). 1 Foxface Rabbitfish (Siganus vulpinus). 1 Diamond Watchman Goby/Orange Spotted Sleeper Goby (Valenciennea Puellaris). The day I took posession of the tank and fish two months ago my uncle and I put all the livestock into an established (5+ years) 210 gallon tank my uncle recently cleared of fish. They have been doing great over there. All of the above fish got along great in my tank (pre purchase) as well as now in my uncle's 210. I do however want to add more fish. So unless this is not a good idea for some reason I am treating all my fish as new fish that I will include into the stocking order as I understand it should be, or as anyone here wishes to correct me on due to my lack of full understanding/knowledge of fish behavior.
Reading pasfur's thread and taking the advice of stocking in group order A/B/C I will plan on putting the A group in first. I dont have many fish that I own or want on the group A list but here are the ones I have and want. unless there is a reason not to i will pprobably Q them and add them at the same time as
it is a big tank.
Here is the A group. 1 1/2-2 units of fish per guidelines of up to 18 units for a 180G
Diamond Watchman Goby/Orange Spotted Sleeper Goby (Valenciennea Puellaris)(a) (if we can find him currently he is on hiatus somewhere)
Yellow Headed Sleeper Goby (Valenciennea Strigata)(a)
Royal Gramma (Gramma Loreto)(a)
I question the adding of two different species of Valenciennea's but due to tank size and what I have read about them I hope this will not be a problem. From there I will be looking to add from the B group. I have a few questions here... can I put three seperate species of Centropyge Angels into a 180G? I
dont need to, but these are the fish I like... My preferences are for the Flame Angel then Lemon Peel then the Bi Color. I am considering the lemon peel because I wanted a Yellow Tang
and have another potential problem with that later on... The yellow tail damsels, general consensus is damsels are mean but I also read that yellow tails are more mellow and some more reading revealed they are even less agressive in groups so I was thinking of adding three to five of those. If they will be a problem I will not add them. However, if the tank is big enough and they wont terrorize all the other fish I'd like to add them because I like them. I'm thinking add the damsels and then later add the Angels at the same time.
Yellow Tail Blue Damsel (Chrysiptera parasema
) (b) (3/5)
Flame Angel (Centropyge loricula)(b)
Bi Color Angel (Centropyge bicolor
Lemonpeel Angel (Centropyge flavissimus)(b)
This leaves me with one of my big dilema's. The tank came with a Tomato Clown but I want a Maroon clown more than I want the Tomato. What are the chances I can add them both in a 180 and if so add them at the same time? or with the tomato first because it seems from reading as if the tomato would be marginally more tolerant of the maroon being added than the maroon would be of the tomato being added. Ultimately If I have to I will find a new home for the tomato in favor of the maroon I want. Any advice here?
Tomato Clown (Amphiprion frenatus
Maroon clown (Premnas biaculeatus
If I understand pasfur's concept here this would be 6 units of fish if I get them all to live peacefully together. leaving me 10 0f 18 units to go.
This brings me to the C group. I would add the foxface first, then the two Regals together. This leaves me with my next dilema, two Zebrasoma's, A beautiful Purple Tang
I already own, and I have always wanted a Yellow Tang
. I'm thinking if the two Zebrasoma's wont work together (can I add them at the same time) I have read conflicting info on them. Some say they will not tolerate each other some say add them at the same time. I am willing to avoid this issue and scrap the Yellow Tang
idea in favor of the lemon peel I mentioned earlier if the two zebrasoma's is a really bad idea. Is three dwarf angels a better idea? I am too green to know all of this and could use some guidance. Lastly, I might like to add a Scribble Angel as my last fish. Realize this will all take a long time for me to accomplish if it's doable at all. I will be learning as I go of course.
Foxface Rabbitfish (Siganus vulpinus)(c)
Regal Tang (Paracanthurus hepatus
)(c)(2) Purple Tang
)(c) Yellow Tang
Scribble Angel (Chaetodontoplus dubolayi)(c)
If all this is possible and I realize it's probably not this would be an additional 10 units of fish and I'd be at the limit based on Pasfur's article. I'm sure there are allot of things I dont have the knowledge to think of at this time about my potential stocking list. I also would eventually LOVE to have a copper band and a mandarin or two but am nowhere near the experience level or tank maturity I need to consider them at all at this point due to their feeding issues. Will I be ready by the time I get down what will remain of this list? who knows. If I am how could they fit in? I'm sure there are a bunch of angles I have missed on this behavior dynamics amongst the fishlife due to my being green in this hobby and am hoping some of you can help me out in this regard. It's extremely difficult to plan a long term stocking list with no real life fish behavior experience at all. I am open to any and all input.
I also need to get my clean up crew going in short order, anyone have any suggestions on that subject based on the above potential stocking list?
Sorry so long. Thanks for giving it a look. Thanks even more for any input