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Old 06-04-2009, 02:10 PM   #1
 
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I am purchasing a 45 gallo aquarium this weekend, and would like to know what needs to be done in order to get it saltwater ready.
Here is a list of what it is coming with:

Yes, the stand comes with it. Stand, tank, light, glass tops, and canister filter (Complete Setup) I will try to get some pics tonight for you if you really need them. The stand is not homemade-it is store brought from Petsmart, as was the tank. The light is a normal output T5 Coralife 2 bulb strip light, and the canister filter is a Marineland Magnum 350.
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:49 AM   #2
 
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Honestly, you'll find in the long run, it will be more efficient to buy this component by component.

The basic forms of filtration in a marine tank are: Live Rock, a Protein skimmer and the Sand Bed. A Deep Sand Bed (4" to 6") is preffered for denitrification.

Are you doing a Fish Only (FO), Fish Only With Live Rock (FOWLR) or a Reef Tank? I ask because the light requirements differ for a reef tank.

I spent like $700.00 when I bought the whole setup at Pet Supplies Plus. The salesman sold me a canister filter, crushed coral, a test kit, salt mix, a basic T12 light fixture, the glass top, tank & stand. I currently am using the tank and stand. The rest of this stuff is in my basement.

Are you planning on incorporating a Sump? If so, buy a Reef Ready Tank.

Ask a lot of questions, and welcome to the forum!
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:56 AM   #3
 
I would like to just do little by little and start off with a fish only with live rock; not the coral.All I will have tomorrow is the tank and the canister, no special lights, at least I dont think they are, and a stand to put it on. I really think I want to go in the saltwater direction though, and just build little by little.Maybe just start out with live rock and a few damsels or clown fish, and see how that goes. I don't know what a sump is, but if memory serves me, I thought it was for much larger tanks. So how much money am I looking at spending on extra things, assuming that I find some good deals online?
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:11 AM   #4
 
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If you click on the word "sump", it will bring you to an explanation about sumps.

I have a 46 gallon bowfront with a 15 gallon sump. The biggest reason to incorporate a sump is to increase water volume. Hiding the equipment, like the heater and skimmer, is nice too. I believe one of our members, onefishtwofish, had a 46 gallon bowfront with a 40 gallon sump. You will find, through a little a research, that the pros of a sump are worth the time and money invested within.

I believe the canister filter is unnecassary. You need a protein skimmer (again, click on the blue underlined word). This is singlehandedly the most important piece of equipment on a marine tank. This will provide your filtration, coupled with Live rock and a Deep sand bed. The filter material in the canister filter will trap detritus, and cause a nitrate and phosphate increase in the tank. You'll see algae blooms. The canister must be cleaned once or twice a week to reduce these nutrient spikes. I personally go without (from experience).

You will need a powerhead to create a good flow in the tank. The basic T12 or T8 flourescent light fixture should be good for a Fish Only tank, or even a FOWLR. You need a heater and thermometer. And use a good salt mix. I use Instant Ocean, and I notice that if I use other (cheaper) brands, I get algae...

I use the following online stores to buy equipment, but buy all my fish from my Local Fish Store (LFS):

Dr Foster & Smith
Aquacave
Aquaria Supply
That Fish Place

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Old 06-05-2009, 10:56 AM   #5
 
I didn't realize that a sump is recommended, or that it was so cumbersome. Could I not get by without one for a couple months?
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:18 AM   #6
 
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I didn't have one for the first 6 months. My tank was just fine after I took all the filter media out of the canister (Isaw my Nitrate levels drop steadily thereafter). I continued to run the empty canister filter just for the added water flow until I installed my sump.

Did you click the links on my last post? I think that you could definitely save a few bucks if you use these online sites as opposed to large box pet stores...
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:25 AM   #7
 
Since the canister filter is coming with the tank I plan on using it as long as it works coherently with rest of the tank equipment (idk if that came out right). So, I can still use the canister filter, and I just need to by a powerhead and a protein skimmer? I have done some research on the sump, and it is not neccessary, so I can hold off on that. I just want the basic equipment to get the tank up and running so I can begin to cycle it.
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Old 06-05-2009, 01:52 PM   #8
 
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You should be fine using the canister filter, as long as you clean it regularly. I used a canister for about two months before I was sick of taking it apart twice a week to clean alll the filter media, rinse out the carbon, and clean all the impellars. I ended up running it empty.

But yes, a protein skimmer is key. And a powerhead will create good water movement, which is good for gas exchange. I definitely suggest adding both of those.
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:17 PM   #9
 
Yeah I will not start it with out the protein skimmer and power head. I want the fish to be in the best enviroment that I can give them, so in no way do I want to settle for sub par filtration and what not. I am really excited and I appreciate all the info!
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:33 PM   #10
 
I have not mentioned the canister filter brand, and was wondering if anyone can vouch for it. It is a marneland magnum 350.
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