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post #1 of 8 Old 04-12-2007, 03:07 PM Thread Starter
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Fluval 404, Never Used need others knowledge

So i just bought this sick setup. See below. Only cost me one hundred not including fish, sand, rocks, and undergravel. Anyway. I want to know more about these Fluval 404's. I have never used one, i love the emperor's I have always used them and they are great. But since i now have a chiller i think it would be sick to only have fluval and the chiller running this system. Get rid of the Emperor and have one less thing hanging off my tank. But are Fluvals reliable and good. I have used a emperor for like 3 years and never a problem. Whatd o people know baout the Fluvals.

55 G 4x1.7x1.7
Emperor 400, Fluval 404, undergravel, Resun Cl300 Chiller
1 Blue damsel, 1 yellow tail damsel
1 Koran Angle
1 Long Noise Hawk
6 month old tank

55G 4x2x1
Self-built wetdry, undergravel, Seaclone 100, Turbo Twist 9w
1 Queen Angle juvenile about 6 inch long,, 1 maroon clown fish,
1 hawaiian turkey fish (lion). 1 blue damsel
3 year old tank
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post #2 of 8 Old 04-12-2007, 05:11 PM
I say get rid of both filters. I run n filters on mine. Canister filters will produce nitrates. Now if you can use it to remove the free floating particles in the water. Just put filter floss or filter sponge and some live rock pieces in there. N Carbon. The live rock will act as carbon, but better.
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post #3 of 8 Old 04-12-2007, 05:21 PM Thread Starter
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No filter are you crazy. Never had a problem with nitrates in any of my tanks. Tanks need the bio-filters.

55 G 4x1.7x1.7
Emperor 400, Fluval 404, undergravel, Resun Cl300 Chiller
1 Blue damsel, 1 yellow tail damsel
1 Koran Angle
1 Long Noise Hawk
6 month old tank

55G 4x2x1
Self-built wetdry, undergravel, Seaclone 100, Turbo Twist 9w
1 Queen Angle juvenile about 6 inch long,, 1 maroon clown fish,
1 hawaiian turkey fish (lion). 1 blue damsel
3 year old tank
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post #4 of 8 Old 04-12-2007, 05:41 PM
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No filter are you crazy. Never had a problem with nitrates in any of my tanks. Tanks need the bio-filters.
Thats what the live rock is for.
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post #5 of 8 Old 04-12-2007, 07:12 PM Thread Starter
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Ok, well learn new things everyday. However, in HAwaii live coral is illegal, even if we get it out of the local waters, so until the laws change or i find some way to bring it in, I am stuck with filters. Which brings me back to my first question. What do people know about the Fulval systems. Are they good. See my first post for my entire questioning.

55 G 4x1.7x1.7
Emperor 400, Fluval 404, undergravel, Resun Cl300 Chiller
1 Blue damsel, 1 yellow tail damsel
1 Koran Angle
1 Long Noise Hawk
6 month old tank

55G 4x2x1
Self-built wetdry, undergravel, Seaclone 100, Turbo Twist 9w
1 Queen Angle juvenile about 6 inch long,, 1 maroon clown fish,
1 hawaiian turkey fish (lion). 1 blue damsel
3 year old tank
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post #6 of 8 Old 04-12-2007, 07:34 PM
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Ok, well learn new things everyday. However, in HAwaii live coral is illegal, even if we get it out of the local waters, so until the laws change or i find some way to bring it in, I am stuck with filters. Which brings me back to my first question. What do people know about the Fulval systems. Are they good. See my first post for my entire questioning.
Well I guess we both taught each other something. LOL But your question yes they are. I haven't heard anything bad about them.
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post #7 of 8 Old 05-28-2008, 04:29 PM
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I Am also starting a 55g tank and my marine fish seller actually recommened this filter to me as long as u clean it out once a weeek it is a good bio filter and mechanical remeber don/t clean the bio filter part out you don't want to kill the good bacteria. Can't remeber if u had a skimmer or not if u dont i would buy one of those to act as your chemical filter.
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post #8 of 8 Old 05-31-2008, 12:10 AM
"What do people know about the Fulval systems"

For long term canister is not recommend. Fluval 404 is just a normal canister, try Hydor canister, or Tetral canister, or Eheim canister it is just a convenient way to pack everything into one for easier maintenance but there is always a lifespan to it, e.g. the pump and leakages problem after 5 yrs or more than 5 yrs.

To achieve a sustainable ecological system you need a sumptank to have more liverock and natural bacteria keep and maintained.
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