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Big Fate 04-19-2012 09:11 PM

Anyone ever tried painting these?
 
Was thinking about buying these Clamp lamp light fixtures and painting them. Of course I would need something that could tolerate higher heat, so maybe some Caliper paint?

75-Watt Incandescent Clamp Light-CE-200PDQ at The Home Depot

What do you think?

Hanky 04-19-2012 09:16 PM

I think as long as you get High temp paint that would be fine, There pretty cheap so even if it doesnt work your not out a whole lot, let us know how you make out.

Big Fate 04-19-2012 09:24 PM

Yea, exactly my thoughts. It'll probably be my next project in a few weeks. So i'll keep you posted

Geomancer 04-20-2012 05:53 AM

Make sure it is kept away from humidity and has no chance of slipping and falling in the tank. Those clamps are not all that strong. A lid on the aquarium covers both bases.

Even with paint, the electrical components which are the only parts that mater (the socket, wires, and switch) will still be exposed to humidity and thus rust/corrosion which can lead to fire.

Big Fate 04-20-2012 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Geomancer (Post 1052937)
Make sure it is kept away from humidity and has no chance of slipping and falling in the tank. Those clamps are not all that strong. A lid on the aquarium covers both bases.

Even with paint, the electrical components which are the only parts that mater (the socket, wires, and switch) will still be exposed to humidity and thus rust/corrosion which can lead to fire.

Huh?? :BIGhmm:

Don't you think you're a bit reaching on that one?
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Geomancer 04-20-2012 08:58 AM

No, on an open tank it's really best to have a light fixture that's designed for it. A fixture rated for exterior use may also be used. "Indoor only" fixtures, like what you linked, should not be used in humid environments for the same reasons they shouldn't be used outside.

A closed tank, one with a glass hood or similar, will keep the humidity inside the tank and be fine.

Termato 04-20-2012 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Fate (Post 1052659)
Was thinking about buying these Clamp lamp light fixtures and painting them. Of course I would need something that could tolerate higher heat, so maybe some Caliper paint?

75-Watt Incandescent Clamp Light-CE-200PDQ at The Home Depot

What do you think?

High Temp Paint and don't paint the inside of it. Works great!

I never used it for a tank though.

Mikaila31 04-20-2012 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Geomancer (Post 1053045)
No, on an open tank it's really best to have a light fixture that's designed for it. A fixture rated for exterior use may also be used. "Indoor only" fixtures, like what you linked, should not be used in humid environments for the same reasons they shouldn't be used outside.

A closed tank, one with a glass hood or similar, will keep the humidity inside the tank and be fine.

I disagree. While I do use lids and swear by them. Vast majority of aquarium fixtures are made very poorly to the point that it makes me wonder how they passed safety laws. They sell a lot of small stock tanks with no lids, condensers, water proof connections or sockets. If I ever come across a stock hood that uses water proof heat shrink connectors or fancy wire nuts instead of general run of the mill wire nuts(which lead to corrosion) I will be amazed.

I can tell you the stock wiring in the hood for my Mini-bow aquarium would be equal to or worse then in those clamp lights.

Mikaila31 04-20-2012 01:21 PM

Also just something to note. CFLs will have a pretty short bulb life in those fixtures. The inverted (upside down) orientation will cause the ballast in the base of the bulb to get hotter. Also combined with the Humidity it they will have a pretty reduced life. Main thing is the heat that I would worry about. It would be much better if the reflector had cooling vents/slots around the ballast. I've built a number of hood from kits or from total scratch as well as disassembled and improved stock hoods. Main things I try to achieve are water resistant connections and good heat management. Heat management is a biggy for me though, the better you manage heat the better and longer the fixture will preform well for you. Its not as vital using screw-in CFLs but in better fixtures like T5 HO or PC it can mean all the difference for the ballast which makes up about 1/2 cost of the fixture.

I personally would not use those clamp lights simply because (depending on tank size) there are other ways to get better light IMO. Probably not a cheap and definitely more work but you will get much more even spread and more efficient use of the light.

Geomancer 04-20-2012 01:22 PM

Yes ... and they are designed to be used over a hood, not an open tank. There is a difference.

I'm not saying this is instantly catastrophic, or a guarantee, it's something that happens slowly over time. It might arc, it might burn, it might do nothing. Risk.

I guess ask yourself, why do they make exterior light fixtures if moisture makes no difference? If it's just because they last longer, why do building codes require the use of an exterior fixture?


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