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jrury 04-14-2012 09:23 PM

Kuhli Loachs with small Tiger Barbs?
 
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I want to get 3 Kuhli Loachs but will my 3 tiger barbs (may get to more) that are about an inch long kill or constantly harass them? i have a 10 gallon now with an aqueon 20 filter and pool filter sand as substrate.

Mo 04-14-2012 09:36 PM

Tiger barbs are very aggresive fish and are known to nip, and harrased most tankmates even if in optimal group conditions as they are very insecure. I would not recommend kuhli loaches for a tank with an unsuitable school of tiger barbs as they are likely to show aggression towards the other Fish. There also are multpiple other differential requirements. Kuhli, and tiger barbs are both schooling fish and for best results with minimal aggression exhibited towards the other fish. You ideally should have 10 tiger barbs, and 6 kuhli loaches. Which would be severely over stcking your tank, most likely resulting in the death of the inhabitants for multpiple reasons, all linked with over stocking. Kuhli loaches and tiger barbs are very boisterous, active fish that ideally shoul be in a minimum tank size of around 20 gallons 2 feet. For optimal, prefered conditions. And the aggression exhibited towards the kuhlis will be very high and they will most likely due of stress

Good luck!

jrury 04-14-2012 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mo (Post 1047408)
Tiger barbs are very aggresive fish and are known to nip, and harrased most tankmates even if in optimal group conditions as they are very insecure. I would not recommend kuhli loaches for a tank with an unsuitable school of tiger barbs as they are likely to show aggression towards the other Fish. There also are multpiple other differential requirements. Kuhli, and tiger barbs are both schooling fish and for best results with minimal aggression exhibited towards the other fish. You ideally should have 10 tiger barbs, and 6 kuhli loaches. Which would be severely over stcking your tank, most likely resulting in the death of the inhabitants for multpiple reasons, all linked with over stocking. Kuhli loaches and tiger barbs are very boisterous, active fish that ideally shoul be in a minimum tank size of around 20 gallons 2 feet. For optimal, prefered conditions. And the aggression exhibited towards the kuhlis will be very high and they will most likely due of stress

Good luck!

Cool thanks for the info. if i get the loachs the barbs will be moved to my moms tank. how about 3 Loachs alone in the tank? or maybe like 5-7 small fish what would you recommend?

Mo 04-14-2012 09:56 PM

I would get 6 ember tetras and a male Betta as both tiger barbs and kuhli loaches are not best suited for such a small tank

jrury 04-14-2012 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mo (Post 1047435)
I would get 6 ember tetras and a male Betta as both tiger barbs and kuhli loaches are not best suited for such a small tank

yeah I'm hopping to get a larger tank very soon and use the 10 as a shrimp only.

Adamson 04-14-2012 10:56 PM

Don't worry about it, Tiger Barbs are not as aggressive as the people on this forum will have you believe.

thekoimaiden 04-15-2012 12:34 AM

A note about the kuhli loaches, you won't see them as much if you don't have them in groups of 6 or more. When my kuhli school dropped below 5 , I hardly ever saw the little buggers (as adorable as they are). I would just hold out on getting more fish until you have a tank large enough to house them. For kuhlis that is going to be As a good rule of thumb, never buy a fish if your current tanks aren't large enough. Many things can happen in between now and when you plan to have a new tank.

ladayen 04-15-2012 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Adamson (Post 1047493)
Don't worry about it, Tiger Barbs are not as aggressive as the people on this forum will have you believe.


I would agree they are not necessarily aggresive. However that doesn't change that they will often nip fins and they are very active fish that need more space then a 10g.. and should have a larger group then 3.

Byron 04-15-2012 12:03 PM

No one can seriously argue the scientific evidence, which is that shoaling fish maintained in too small a group will usually show increased aggression. Nor can anyone argue that the Tiger Barb as a species is naturally more nippy/aggressive by nature. Whether or not these traits are heightened or lessened can be due to a number of factors such as water parameters, tank size, number in the group, tankmates, foods, tank decor, light...whatever. But we do know the "normal" behaviours, and planning for those is always the best and wisest course of action.

Nature made fish the way they are, through evolution of each species relevant to its habitat, and none of us is going to change this no matter what we may think or try.

Byron.

jrury 04-15-2012 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by thekoimaiden (Post 1047587)
A note about the kuhli loaches, you won't see them as much if you don't have them in groups of 6 or more. When my kuhli school dropped below 5 , I hardly ever saw the little buggers (as adorable as they are). I would just hold out on getting more fish until you have a tank large enough to house them. For kuhlis that is going to be As a good rule of thumb, never buy a fish if your current tanks aren't large enough. Many things can happen in between now and when you plan to have a new tank.

my mom has a 55 that they move to when they get larger. i just want one of my own would like a small community tank after the barbs get large and move out but don't know what kind of fish would work.


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