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perselus 11-27-2007 05:00 PM

I don't know what to do!
 
My tank info follows:

1. Size of aquarium: 55 gallon
2. Freshwater
3. Tank has been set up for a month
4. I have 3 fancy goldfish
5. No live plants in the tank
6. We are keeping temperature at 76, because I read warmer water is better when the fish has parasites. It was about 74 two days ago.
7. Filter make/model: Aqua tech
8. Are you using a CO2 unit? No
9. Not much sunlight, sometimes in the afternoon.
10. Last water change was today 25%
11. How often do you perform water changes? Every 2 or 3 days lately
12. How often and what foods do you feed your fish? twice a day, very small quantity. Tetra goldfish flakes.
13. I use florescent light 12 hours a day
14. What are your water parameters? Everything is zero except for ammonia level : between 4.0 and 8.0
15. What test kit are you using and is it liquid or test strips? Liquid, the test's name's API.
16. When was the last time you bought a fish and how did they behave while in the pet store tank? about 2 weeks ago, and they seemed healthy. The fish still seems healthy and active, even with the parasite on his tail.


I have 2 concerns that may be connected, one about my fish's tail fin, and the water quality... It's going to be a long explanation, and I probably won't be able to express myself clearly, but please bear with me.

A while ago I posted about the high ammonia level on my tank, and I started doing 25% water changes every 2 days. The tank doesn't seem to be cycled yet, as the ammonia won't go down. I'm even using Stress Zyme, but it doesn't seem to be working. Yesterday we cleaned the whole tank as it had been a month since I set up the tank, (changing 50% of the water) and now the ammonia tested even higher!

Meanwhile my newest goldfish, a pearlscale, started to have some weird spots on his tail fin, since last week. I tried looking up online to see what it was, but nothing seems to match! It isn't ick because it doesn't look like salt spots.

They were lager and whitish to dark grey, also not totally flat like a stain, but more bumpy, like a parasite. I noticed about 4 spots like that.

Yesterday, the biggest spot moved from the end of his tail to the top. This morning all the other spots disappeared, and only the larger one remained, although it looks larger and it seems to me like the other ones moved closer to one another and formed this big lump. I added some pictures, I couldn't get a good shot, but I circled the spots.

I did another 25% water change today, but the ammonia remains as high as ever. I'm at a loss of what to do, and as for my fish, I have no idea of what kind of medicine I should buy.

fish_4_all 11-27-2007 05:10 PM

Well Melafix would be my first choice to add to the tank. With 3 goldfish in the tank the cycle may seem to be extreme because they are very messy fish.

I would do water changes every other day, preferably 50%. Making sure to get as much of the gunk and mulm off the bottom as possible with every water change.

As for the spots, with it being gray and patchy it sounds like a fungal infection. I can not say if this is because the water is too warm as the goldfish prefer cooler water or an actual fungus, Melafix or some other treatment for fungus and fin rot should help the fins heal and help with the spot. You might add the standard amount of aquarium salt to the tank to help with this also but I do not know how well Goldfish handle salt.

I have not located your pictures yet but I will take a look. Also, if you can post the pics in the post it will help to keep things a little more in line and may help with a proper diagnosis.

Little-Fizz 11-27-2007 05:17 PM

I don't really know what to say about your goldfishes illness, someone else will have to help you with that. But I think you said you cleaned out the whole tank? That's not helping things at all. If your tank hasn't cycled the last thing you want to do is kill any bacteria thats in there. All I can recommended is a lot of water changes (I know you've done this just keep up) and maybe meds if someone else can recommend ones that work? Sorry, wish I could help you out a bit more, maybe pics would help with the lumps? Good luck, I hope your fishies are ok :(

Lupin 11-27-2007 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fish_4_all
As for the spots, with it being gray and patchy it sounds like a fungal infection. I can not say if this is because the water is too warm as the goldfish prefer cooler water or an actual fungus, Melafix or some other treatment for fungus and fin rot should help the fins heal and help with the spot. You might add the standard amount of aquarium salt to the tank to help with this also but I do not know how well Goldfish handle salt.

Melafix cannot fix fungus or finrot other than doing plenty of water changes. For fungus, use either Methylene Blue or Jungle Fungus Guard. No need for aquarium salt if you use the latter as it already contains salt in it. The goldfish will be fine with presence of salt but it is important to note that the pearlscales are far more problematic in terms of health than most fancy goldfish. Common goldfish would be the most resistant to several diseases.

perselus 11-27-2007 05:19 PM

I can't seem to get my pictures attached, I have no idea why!

Thank you, I will continue the water change then, and as for the fish's tail fin, can a fungus change or move from one place to another?

It's really confusing, because the fish seems happy and hasn't behaved in any way the symptoms show in all diseases I've seen so far....

fish_4_all 11-27-2007 05:25 PM

The pictures may not attatch as they might be too large. Have you ever used photobucket or photolocker? Both are very easy to use, free and attatching pics is a lot easier. The link to both is in my signature.

And yes, I think a fungus can move because it is going to attack the areas where the fishes slime coat is weakest. If the tail got better then it would move to wherever it can get a foothold.


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