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GwenInNM 03-04-2012 10:42 PM

Video of my German Blue Ram fry!!
 
I can't believe the male/female have already bred! Aren't they cute?:-D

fryGBR1.AVI - YouTube

Gwen

Boscobear 03-04-2012 11:03 PM

That is absolutely marvelous, thanks for the video, great job.

One of my objectives, to add Rams to my aquarium.
Looks like these new parents are very happy living with you. Anything special you do? How old are these fish? Do you fed a lot of live food? Thanks in advance for any info you can share.

GwenInNM 03-05-2012 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Boscobear (Post 1003287)
That is absolutely marvelous, thanks for the video, great job.

One of my objectives, to add Rams to my aquarium.
Looks like these new parents are very happy living with you. Anything special you do? How old are these fish? Do you fed a lot of live food? Thanks in advance for any info you can share.


I buy RO water from a vending machine close to my house. I pay $1.25 for 5 gallons and do a 10 gal wc each week, in a 30 gal tank. The ph is 6.3 that comes out of the machine (Glacier water).

I keep the temp at 86 degrees and feed omega flakes and frozen things like blood worms, daphnia. I can't think of anything else I do that would be matter.

The strangest thing about this, is I have been treating the tank for ich, because I just added 2 females about 2 weeks ago. My previous female the male mated with died. They had spawned twice but the eggs never made it. The female he didn't mate with came down with ich, and everyone got it but the male. Including a few of the Cardinal tetras. I've stopped treatment, and I'm crossing my fingers, but can't believe with that going on, they would lay eggs. I've sinced moved the other female to a 5 gal as it was stressful how they chased her if she came anywhere near "their" side of the tank. I think I'm going to bring her back to the fish store, which makes me sad, but is probably the best decision. :cry:

Gwen

lorax84 03-05-2012 05:39 PM

Very nice. I'm glad you finally got a spawn after all the things you've gone through with your rams.

GwenInNM 03-10-2012 09:45 AM


Update. Sadly, all my fry have been eaten by the parents:cry: I likely made a mistake by getting the Cardinals out of the tank, because from what Byron said, these fish often need "dither" fish to have something to protect their fry from, and without it, will eat the babies. It's also possible they would have eaten them either way, as it's their first fry.

Can't put the Cardinals back, as I placed them. I bought 6 silver hatched fish yesterday (now in a QT tank) as I think these will be better dither fish anyways. Crossing fingers they'll breed again :-D

Gwen

MinaMinaMina 03-10-2012 01:50 PM

Congratulations! I'm sure it will all be worked out, and you'll be raising juvies in no time. :-D

That's awesome that you're on top of the RO water. I haven't found a local source for me, yet. What is your pH out of the tap? Do you have to adjust the temp on the bought water some how? I'm still debating the extra expensive of RO, and wavering on if I want to get some GBRs. Yours are gorgeous!

I've heard that almost all domestically bred GBR have exceptionally poor parenting skills. I've been talking with a local breeder (because I'm interested in getting some GBRs, possibly breeding) and he said that just about all domestic GBRs can't parent well, it seems that everyone pulls their eggs to hatch artificially so that parenting skills have effectively been bred out of them. He said he's never had a pair that would raise their own fry. He said wild-caught are excellent parents, usually getting it right by their second or third spawn, so I don't know which kind you have. So, just passing along the info if it helps ya!

One other thing, though- if the new fish are Silver Hatchetfish, I don't think they can handle the high temp of 86F?

GwenInNM 03-10-2012 02:14 PM

One other thing, though- if the new fish are Silver Hatchetfish, I don't think they can handle the high temp of 86F?[/quote]


I did see in one source, they can be kept up to 86 degrees. I won't always have the tank at that temp, unless I want them to breed. I've lowered it slowly, and it's down to 84. I don't use any other water source, but RO water. With a smaller tank, this isn't that bad to do wc with. Out of the tap my water is at 8.3 I hope these fish do well as dither fish - I can't afford to keeping making mistakes :)

I don't want the GBR's to breed again, anytime real soon. I'd like them to have a break. When temps warm up here, I may raise the temp in the tank, to match summer. I need to find a way to get baby brine that I can breed and raise for the fry, as it may be that the GBR will only eat live food (read it somewhere).

Gwen

MinaMinaMina 03-10-2012 02:46 PM

Yes, everything I've read and heard says they require live foods.
I'm looking into brine shrimp myself right now, for a different species of fry.
I cannot see a way to have an on-going culture of brine shrimp, and be able to harvest the babies (BBS). This was my thinking, too, in the beginning! No one I've talked to has ever heard of a way, and there's nothing on the internet I've seen. The only way to do it is to buy a bunch of eggs and hatch out BBS in rotating batches. I'm setting up a BBS hatchery now. If you already have a spare air pump (or one that has a unused port) and airline hosing, setting up a hatchery is pretty inexpensive.
Other good foods, I'm told, include microworm and, when the fry get a bit bigger, daphnia.

This breeding thing is pretty exciting, huh? But nerve-wracking, too! :lol:

GwenInNM 03-11-2012 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MinaMinaMina (Post 1009139)
Yes, everything I've read and heard says they require live foods.
I'm looking into brine shrimp myself right now, for a different species of fry.
I cannot see a way to have an on-going culture of brine shrimp, and be able to harvest the babies (BBS). This was my thinking, too, in the beginning! No one I've talked to has ever heard of a way, and there's nothing on the internet I've seen. The only way to do it is to buy a bunch of eggs and hatch out BBS in rotating batches. I'm setting up a BBS hatchery now. If you already have a spare air pump (or one that has a unused port) and airline hosing, setting up a hatchery is pretty inexpensive.
Other good foods, I'm told, include microworm and, when the fry get a bit bigger, daphnia.

This breeding thing is pretty exciting, huh? But nerve-wracking, too! :lol:


Yes, it sure is exciting. Also, I want to mention that I DIDN'T have my temp up on the tank to get them to breed, (I only had the female for maybe 2 weeks). It was because I had ich! Strange they even bred with the meds in the water. The LFS, were I bought my GBR's told me to feed the frozen bbs. I guess there are a lot of people who don't really know much about raising fry. I feel bad I may have starved the little dudes :cry: I was looking on amazon for the bbs eggs. Don't know of a petstore around here that sells them. Like you, I've got to buy some, and start my own hatchery. I saw on Youtube the DIY method, and it is cheap. I do need to buy another air pump, however.

Gwen

Quantum 03-11-2012 11:24 AM

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I buy RO water from a vending machine close to my house
I've been buying distilled by the gallon. They have this machine at the grocery store I usually go to and I wanted to try it. What do you put the water in, is there a specific container that fits the machine?


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