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JayMeister 11-22-2007 08:59 AM

discus help
 
hi every1 i wanna start a discus tank and i just wanna know wat kind of fish can i put together wif the discus

JayMeister 11-22-2007 09:04 AM

sorry abt creating copys of the topic my pc is crazy :x

Amphitrite 11-22-2007 10:06 AM

No probs, I have removed the duplicates.

Lupin 11-22-2007 04:43 PM

Re: discus help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayMeister
hi every1 i wanna start a discus tank and i just wanna know wat kind of fish can i put together wif the discus

Welcome to Fishforum.com, Jay.:wave:

What size is the tank? Here are the following you could try...

Black Neon Tetra(Hyphessobrycon herbertaxelrodi)
Bleeding Heart Tetra(Hyphessobrycon erythrostigma)
Blind Cave Tetra(Anoptichthys jordani)
Cardinal Tetra(Cheirodon axelrodi)
Diamond Tetra(Moenkhausia pittieri)
Emperor Tetra (Nematobrycon palmeri)
Glass Bloodfin(Prionobrama filigera)
Glowlight Tetra(Hemigrammus eryhthrozonus)
Head-and-Tail-Light(Hemigrammus ocellifer)
Jewel Tetra(Hyphessobrycon callistus)
Kerri Tetra (Inpaichthys kerri)
Lemon Tetra(Hyphessobrycon pulchripinnis)
Penguin tetra(Thayeria boehlkei)
Robert's Tetra(Hyphessobrycon robertsi)
Rosy Tetra(Hyphessobrycon bentosi)
Rummy-Nose Tetra(Hemigrammus bleheri)
Rummy-Nose Tetra(Hemigrammus rhodostomus)
Rummy-Nose Tetra(Petitella georgiae)
X-ray Tetra(Pristella maxillaris)

Pencilfish
Nannostomus beckfordi
Nannostomus eques
Nannostomus harrisoni
Nannostomus marginatus
Nannostomus mortenthaleri
Nannostomus nitidus
Nannostomus trifasciatus
Nannostomus unifasciatus

Hatchetfish
Carnegiella myersi
Carnegiella strigata strigata
Gasteropelecus levis
Gasteropelecus sternicla

Angelfish-Pterophyllum scalare makes a fine choice if your discus can stand their ground very well otherwise if bullied, the angelfish will be able to outcompete them for food and harass them. Pterophyllum altum is another and is more suitable if money and time are not an issue. These are wild-caught so it is expected they will react too quickly if they do not like your water conditions.

Corydoras-Check planetcatfish.com for more information on these little catfish. Do make sure the species you get are tolerant of the warm temperature. Corydoras sterbai is one of the few I can mention that might be able to tolerate the temperature above 80 degrees Fahrenheit.

Otocinclus catfish-Be a little observant when getting them from your lfs. If they were not given sufficient food diet, then there is a tendency they'll suck the slime coat of your discus.

Plecos-A few I can mention that are suitable are Ancistrus, small Panaques, Rineloricaria and Sturisoma. Provide them plenty of driftwoods to hide and most especially the Ancistrus. The Ancistrus is mildly territorial and if given insufficient number of hiding places, they have a tendency to "slash" through the discus in their efforts to defend their territory. That was my problem before.

Rasboras-Though not purely South American, they nevertheless make fine choices. The best you can get is the Trigonostigma heteromorpha.

JayMeister 11-23-2007 05:32 AM

thx 4 the help lupin i'm not sure how big the tanks gonna b i'm gonna get the tank 2morrow so i'll let u know and 1 of my friends want 2 get some discus but he has 2 rosy barbs and 2 tinfoil barbs in hes tank can he add discus 2 the tank :?:

Lupin 11-23-2007 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayMeister
thx 4 the help lupin i'm not sure how big the tanks gonna b i'm gonna get the tank 2morrow so i'll let u know and 1 of my friends want 2 get some discus but he has 2 rosy barbs and 2 tinfoil barbs in hes tank can he add discus 2 the tank :?:

Hi Jay.

Is that all he has in his tank? What size is it? Perhaps he should remove those barbs. Rosy barbs, despite not being habitual fin nippers, might nip the discus if given the opportunity. Tinfoil barbs can reach 12 inches max in size and will greatly stress the discus with their constant pecking order and boisterous swimming activity.

If he wants discus, I'd suggest he buy from a local breeder and ask for tips on how to keep them. The breeder should know his stuff anyway. As for tankmates, you can follow what I posted above. If the discus are juveniles, they must be kept in a barebottom tank operated with a heater set at 84 degrees Celsius and frequent water changes. The lighting must be subdued and the tank can be stuffed with plants for refuge. The reason why I suggested barebottom is maintenance will be easier. Feed the juveniles four times a day and keep a watch on water parameters regularly. This will ensure they will grow quickly without risk of stunting.


EDIT:
Jay, I forgot to add that you can keep apistogrammas, keyholes, bolivian rams and blue rams with discus.

JayMeister 11-23-2007 06:00 AM

hes tank size is abt 180 litres so it wont wrk if he mixis them :?:

Lupin 11-23-2007 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayMeister
hes tank size is abt 180 litres so it wont wrk if he mixis them :?:

180 liters=45 gallons

The tank is too small for the tinfoil barbs, let alone the combo with discus. But tinfoils and discus don't mix anyway. The rosy barbs will be fine in that tank however the tinfoil barbs must be rehomed unfortunately.

For 4 discus, I'd recommend 55g as the minimum tank size. A pair or single will not work at all and if you get a trio, you end up having the third one bullied once two pair up. Would he obliged if he upgrade his tank? If not, will he go with the community setup which will include angelfish? Let him take a look into the sticky thread of angelfish photos so he will decide what will be the final stocklist for his tank.:) You can invite him here as well and we'll try to help him along the way.:mrgreen:

JayMeister 11-23-2007 06:37 AM

hes got a angel tank and a malawi tank now he wants a discus tank so i guess he wil have 2 sell hes barbs :(

Lupin 11-23-2007 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayMeister
hes got a angel tank and a malawi tank now he wants a discus tank so i guess he wil have 2 sell hes barbs :(

What sizes are the Malawi and angel tanks?


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