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Philnominal 02-24-2012 01:22 PM

Scarlet badis (Dario Dario)
 
I am having to redo my 29 gallon tank do to some issues with my firemouth and while looking at options I saw these little guys in a tank, barely big enough to see unless your looking hard for them. Now i have a 10 gallon with one male CT betta, 3 ottos and one lone ghost shrimp who was being used to test my betta's temperament for the future RC shrimp i want.

There are 2 problems I am currently having, 1 I'm not sure how many i would want to get considering they are all males and i doubt i'll be able to find any females soon, let alone acquire them. The second is i can't find anywhere that states if they can be kept with betta's or not. Their bright red concerns me as I'm afraid the betta may think of them as a rival.

Also would they eat freeze dried foods? I rarely give my fish frozen treats and freeze dried would be much more practical.

Also any pointers and suggestions would be great. :)

Byron 02-27-2012 04:29 PM

It can depend upon the specific Betta, but generally speaking I wold not try this. The delicate (and they are very delicate fish) Scarlet Badis will likely get eaten. I've had a group of these for a couple years and they are no longer than half an inch. A 10g will work, my three (I'm down to 3) are in a 10g, thickly planted, as the males do spar.

Male Betta really are not community fish, and deserve their own tank. The otos should be OK, though that is not always a certainty depending upon the Betta. I have heard that they will eat shrimp, but that may depend upon the shrimp species of which I know next to nothing.:lol:

Byron.

Philnominal 02-28-2012 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Byron (Post 995933)
It can depend upon the specific Betta, but generally speaking I wold not try this. The delicate (and they are very delicate fish) Scarlet Badis will likely get eaten. I've had a group of these for a couple years and they are no longer than half an inch. A 10g will work, my three (I'm down to 3) are in a 10g, thickly planted, as the males do spar.

Male Betta really are not community fish, and deserve their own tank. The otos should be OK, though that is not always a certainty depending upon the Betta. I have heard that they will eat shrimp, but that may depend upon the shrimp species of which I know next to nothing.:lol:

Byron.

I have already gotten two as I had heard from other sources that it should work. My betta has shown limited interest but i made sure to provide areas they could get to that he couldn't when they wanted to rest. They seem to be considerably faster then my CT betta, and my betta doesn't seem to be particularly aggressive as therer is a Ghost shrimp thats been in the tank for a few weeks (was trying to test my betta's aggression) and it has been fine.

I'm adding more plants to my 10 gallon as I go so it isn't to densly planted now but ill be upping it more and more, also getting some pennywort for it this week.

Sorry for poor picture quality, took with my phone.
What the tank looks like right now, http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/...l/bc0d0316.jpg

The Brighter of the two,
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/...l/703be914.jpg

The Duller (yet bigger) of the two
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/...l/ea9ccf7f.jpg

I'm not sure if they were eating at the lps or not, as their stomach seem to be sunken in, I got them before i wanted to as they seemed to be the only ones left. Didn't seem sick as they were swimming around fine so i nabbed the last two. Didnt see the stomachs till i got home though. :/ Fed them some brine shrimp today, not sure if they ate it or not as i had to rush out of the house. (the pics were taken yesterday)

Any advice on making sure i can get them to eat? they are super cool and i can already see the personality in them. Also i have yet to see them fight, maybe its adjusting to a new tank or something but they seem to swim together a lot.

Byron 02-28-2012 10:21 AM

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First, you need lots more plants. And especially floating. Dario dario will spend their time among floating and thick plantings, avoiding each other. It is their natural instinct.

Plants will also help the Betta. Anabantids must have floating plants.

As for the aggression, time will tell. Remember that even if no physical interaction occurs, the Dario can sense the Betta and this alone will stress them. The Betta is bred to be nasty, and colourful fish usually bring this trait out. You cannot change nature.

As for feeding, this can be tricky. Dario eat live foods and usually frozen. Getting them weaned onto prepared is not easy, my trio peck at fine flakes and micro pellets, and off sinking tablets. Not sure how much of these they are actually eating. They are in a thickly planted tank (see photo, this is the setup they need to feel secure; one of the Dario is front and centre with a Farlowella fry) which has copious live plankton foods and they may well be surviving on that.

Byron.

Philnominal 03-06-2012 10:03 PM

they seem to be eating im giving some frozen brine shrimp daily. I added a lot of broken slate and put various anubias/java fern mixed in with them. Have a small amount of salvinia for floating plants, going to add some pennywort.

I figure when the plants grow and spread some itll give it a lot more full coverage, anarchis clipping should fill in the right (looking at it). I still haven't seen any aggression from the betta towards anything in the tank.

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/...l/2254f0f3.jpg


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