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beetlebz 02-20-2012 03:39 PM

plant nitrate uptake
 
The last week or so my 20 long has been booming in growth, but the fish dont seem to be doing so hot. The bolivian ram looks perfectly healthy, and is active and 'normal' as ever. The rest of the fish had been doing ok too, but the glass cats were getting less and less active, and the cories (peppered only) were getting weird white spots, not ich. I dosed with melafix thinking it was bacterial, and it went away for the most part. Now the glass cats are all getting a little red around their intestines, and today one panda cory is red underneath the gills. Another was deceased.

The tank is on its way to being 'heavily' planted, but there should be mooooore than enough plants to handle the majority of the bioload. A month or so ago, I had 2 dwarf gourami in my 55g expire, and a few emperor tetras expire (the one survivor was put in the 20 long) and then he expired, all apparently from dropsy. Now this. The only thing I cant test for at the moment is nitrate...

im thinking there has been an increase in nitrate in the supply water (im getting a test tomorrow) but wouldnt the plants be enough to take up nitrates? would the flourish comp be adding to the problem? Im just curious. For those who were following, the filter is back on, it was only off for a day before I chickened out, but this started before the filter debacle. Are there other explanations that im not seeing?

Boredomb 02-20-2012 08:48 PM

Plants can take up or use nitrates. Also if you have enough plants for your tanks bioload then the plants will use most of the ammonia before bacteria can leaving only small amounts of bacteria. In a well planted tank that's not overstocked/overfeed your nitrates should be really low or not there.
Also flourish when dosed according to the direction shouldn't be causing a problem.

beetlebz 02-20-2012 09:47 PM

I am perplexed by this. Ill check the nitrates tomorrow, I suspect they will be elevated. What I was more looking for was to see if plants used up nitrates notably slower than ammonia. Heck, the nitrites might even be up, but I suspect I would be seeing more acute symptoms than just bacterial issues. Ill keep on er and keep the water changes coming every other day, and post my test results.

Boredomb 02-20-2012 10:21 PM

As long as the nitirates are below 30 I wouldn't worry about them. Now if nitrites are up then those are harmful at any level

Boredomb 02-20-2012 10:34 PM

Just a few questions..... How big is this tank? How many fish and what are they? How many plants do you have and if you can can you tell me the names? LoL just reread your post. 20gal long. Have you introduce anything new into this tank recently? Anything right before this that you can remember? Also as you know knowing all if the parameter numbers will help out.

beetlebz 02-20-2012 10:45 PM

I just did house cleaning a few weeks ago. Somehow I lost all the cards to the master test kit (im guessing the ferrets hid them somewhere) so everything I lost the index cards to I chucked. All i have is ammonia kit that i bought as a refill, and ive been testing that since I started moving things around. Never once, testing almost every day, did it creep above 0. like i said, heading to the store tomorrow to get a new master kit and a gh kh kit.

I recently added Ceratopteris cornuta, ceratopteris thalictroides, hornwort, and (gulp) anubias on driftwood from petco. I just got a little sick when it occurred to me a petco item was the last thing I added... I did salt bathe them, but that only goes so far.

Boredomb 02-20-2012 10:53 PM

Does your petco house fish with their plants? The two around me do. I stop buying from them when I saw dead fish in the plant tanks. Grrrrrr its not like I had a big selection of plants to choice from locally but now I have none to choice from as i refuse to buy disease infested plants.

Boredomb 02-20-2012 10:57 PM

LoL this is off subject but just saw where you said the ferrets must have taken the cards. My wife had ferrets (3 of them). Those little buggers would get into everything and just about anything they liked but they were hilarious to watch play!

beetlebz 02-20-2012 11:04 PM

mine ran the room loose when I was home.. They made a hole in the bottom of the boxspring on my mattress and would sleep up on the mesh like a hammock :lol: I dont have them anymore, but they have stolen an alarm clock, full cans of soda, entire shoes, my FD pager (with charger), power strips, shirts... I gave them up to my cousin a year and a half or 2 years ago to make room for Gpigs and rats.. and im still finding things they stole stuffed under furniture!

Boredomb 02-20-2012 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by beetlebz (Post 988808)
mine ran the room loose when I was home.. They made a hole in the bottom of the boxspring on my mattress and would sleep up on the mesh like a hammock :lol: I dont have them anymore, but they have stolen an alarm clock, full cans of soda, entire shoes, my FD pager (with charger), power strips, shirts... I gave them up to my cousin a year and a half or 2 years ago to make room for Gpigs and rats.. and im still finding things they stole stuffed under furniture!

Ours was just confined to our bedroom so they couldn't get much and we had a ferret nation cage they slept in at night or when we were not in the bedroom with them. We do have ours anymore either when my daughter was born or actual I think before she was born we got rid of them. I work a lot hours and it was going to be to much for my wife with tie new kid on the way and the other animals that could not be rehomed. That was 3 years ago. My wife wants some more now lol

Anyways back on subject I am wondering if you didn't get something in the plants that the fish caught? I know some dieases can transfer like Ick but not sure about other dieases?


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