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nicolaas 02-09-2012 02:09 AM

Pop eye,help fast
 
1 Attachment(s)
Size of tank? 8gal

2. Water parameters
a. Ammonia?
b. Nitrite?
c. Nitrate?
d. pH 6.6, KH and GH 9
e. Test kit?

3. Temperature27

4. FW (fresh water)

5. How long the aquarium has been set up 2months

6. What fish do you have?130 How many are in your tank?23 How big are they? biggest is dwarf gourami 4cm. How long have you had them?2weeks

7. Were the fish placed under quarantine period ?This is the quarantine tank.

8. a. Fake plants?
b. Sand,
c. Rocks, woods, fancy decors? Any hollow decors? teracotta pot half

9. a. Filtration? platform filter
b. Heater? yes

10. a. Lighting schedule? What lights are used? BED LAMP
b. Any sunlight exposure? How long? 12 ours.

11. a. Water change schedule.Every 3 days.
b. Volume of water changed?10%.
c. Well water,
d. Water conditioner used? not any.
e. Frequency of gravel/sand (if any) vacuumed? every 2weeks

12. Foods? Tetra Veg
How often are they fed? 3 times a day

13. a. Any abnormal signs/symptoms? POP EYE
b. Appearance of poop?
c. Appearance of gills? no problem

14. a. Have you treated your fish ahead of diagnosis? yes
b. What meds were used? Tetra fungi stop and methylene blue.


Ok so my new cherry barb has pop eye, what meds must I get.

Lupin 02-09-2012 07:16 AM

Hi,

pop eye is usually associated with poor water quality. Without results for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate tests, it would be difficult to pin down water quality as the culprit. How many fish do you really have? Wbat species exactly are they? Kindly be specific on that. And what test kit do you normally use for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate?

What exactly is your reason for dosing two meds at once? If those are your answer to pop eye issue, I disagree. These can obliterate your beneficial bacteria and trigger whacked water parameters, thus, this may actually be the root cause of your fish's eye problem.

nicolaas 02-09-2012 12:21 PM

I don't have those test kits(can't find any)The fish are 1 dwarf gourami,1kuhli loach,7 cherry barbs,4 silver dollars and 10 guppys(I know there are allot of fish in the tank. I do 3ed day water changes)
The two meds are for wit spot and some red spots on the body of two cherry's(gone now)

Tazman 02-09-2012 04:04 PM

You have way too many fish in that size tank!

There is a chance the pop eye has been caused by an injury sustained from aggression. There is a lot of fish fighting for not a lot of room.

As Lupin mentioned, you need to post numbers for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate. You need the test kits. You mentioned this is a quarantine tank, what size and what is in your main tank?

Feeding 3 times a day and doing water changes every 3 days is going to cause massive water problems in that smaller a tank. You should be doing water changes daily with that amount of feeding and amount of fish. Big changes as well 50%+.

afremont 02-09-2012 09:22 PM

You should do large, daily water changes. Methylene blue will kill the beneficial bacteria in the biological filter. Ammonia will pile up fast, you really need to get a test kit.

nicolaas 02-10-2012 02:56 AM

OK, YOU GET ME THE TEST KITS! As I sed I can find them,it's a small town.

My main tank is 30gal(going to up grade to a 150gal in a few months) It has a filter that is filtering 1000liters per our.
It has 2 moonlight,1pearl and 1 dwarf gouramis,
2 angel,4 flame tetras,1 pleco,1 sward tail(female) and a black ghost knife fish.(all the fish in this tank are small,the biggest is the ghost at 10cm.
I have moved the silvers and dwarf to the main tank.
There was no aggression, there all still baby's.

MinaMinaMina 02-10-2012 12:20 PM

You can order the test kits online. Most online pet stores have them, or you could search them through Amazon.com.

We're not trying to attack you, we're trying to help you help your fish. But you have a bad situation going on here, and changes need to be made if you want to keep your fish healthy.
Even if all the fish were in the 30g, you'd still be overstocked. Even if you had all the filtration in the world, it doesn't change the fact that there are too many fish in too small a space that don't have enough room for proper activity and territories. The fish that you have already need wildly different water parameters, do not have the proper shoal numbers, and will have aggression issues. If you're going to be getting a 150g, fine, but you need to wait until you have it to get certain fish. Here, look at how your 8g is now: AqAdvisor - Intelligent Freshwater Tropical Fish Aquarium Stocking Calculator and Aquarium Tank/Filter Advisor And I even used juvenile sizes! Do you see all of those warnings and alerts in red?
And look how your 30g will be when all fish are in there, again with juvenile sizes: AqAdvisor - Intelligent Freshwater Tropical Fish Aquarium Stocking Calculator and Aquarium Tank/Filter Advisor

I'm sorry, but there is no way around it- You need to rehome or take back to the store all the fish that will grow too large for the tanks you have NOW, and any species that won't get along with your others, and any species that isn't in the proper sized group. Then, when you get a larger tank, you can slowly stock the tank at that time. Fish need to grow up in appropriately sized spaces with appropriate tank mates and in clean water, or they suffer internal damage that will make them sick and shorten their lifespan either by a little or a lot, depending.

The bottom line is that you just can't humanely keep fish in this way. They're getting sick because they're trying to tell you that something is desperately wrong! Please listen to them!

nicolaas 02-10-2012 01:26 PM

First, there is no problem in my 30gal.i know my fish.they will still be small in a few months,and they will be in good hands with me.
I do allot of reading, don't think i don't now what i am doing. I have the skill to keep these fish. And the only reason i don't have a salt water is i'm to far from pretoria 360kl.

Tazman 02-10-2012 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nicolaas (Post 978926)
First, there is no problem in my 30gal.i know my fish.they will still be small in a few months,and they will be in good hands with me.
I do allot of reading, don't think i don't now what i am doing. I have the skill to keep these fish. And the only reason i don't have a salt water is i'm to far from pretoria 360kl.

THERE IS A MAJOR PROBLEM, NO IF OR BUTS ABOUT IT.

These fish will be dead in that tank before you come anywhere near getting the larger tank.
It is not about knowing what you are doing, it is about keeping the fish happy and disease free. 100% which you are NOT giving them at the moment. It has nothing to do with skills at keeping them, or knowing what you are doing. Killing them is what your are doing.

If you keep them in that tank you will severely reduce their lifespan, be treating illnesses almost constantly and probably lose the entire tank.

This is NOT going to work regardless in a few months or not, they need to go back or into a larger tank ASAP.

You have 23 fish staying in 8 gallons of water, probably less, that is more than I have in my 75 gallon tank and almost double what I have in a 20g breeder with 3 day old Lake Malawi cichlid fry in.

You asked about help for pop eye and we have offered advice and possible causes to it. Dosing the tank that small with medications is going to lead to problems in it's own right, nothing to do with the water parameters that will be off as well.

Please do what is the right thing for these and return them.

nicolaas 02-11-2012 12:14 AM

OK! I'll take them back, I'll go 1000kl and take them back.
The 30gal has been running 6 months with out any problems!(happy and disease free 1000%)


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