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brokenrules69 02-05-2012 08:58 PM

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help identify these fish please
i dont know what the big ones are thought maybe a sun fish i also dont know what the small orange/brown fish(the one above the gauramis) is thought it was maybe some type of catfish??? no clue
i was given this tank for free on CL

thekoimaiden 02-05-2012 11:59 PM

The two in the last photo look like blugill (Lepomis macrochirus) and creek chub (Semotilus spp). I can't quite ID the one in the first photo. It is some kind of sunfish, tho.

brokenrules69 02-06-2012 12:31 AM

the one in the first is the same as the one in the last
3 of the same species and 1 of the "chub"

but have u ever seen then in an aquarium setting?

n thanks!

thekoimaiden 02-06-2012 12:54 AM

I've seen bluegill and chubs in the aquarium before. At my university one of the professors maintained a native Virginia species tank that had chubs, dace, shiners, and a few sunfish. That tank was around 120 gal and cooled with a home-made chiller. The professor let me take care of it for a semester. Most of those fish were really hardy.

Chubs are a really neat fish. They can survive much higher in a stream than most other fish. You can actually go fly fishing for them when there are no trout around. The largest one I ever saw was around 6 inches. A friend of mine caught it in the Ozarks.

brokenrules69 02-06-2012 12:59 AM

my biggest is around 6in but will they be ok in a heated tank with the guaramis and pangasus cat fish???
it stays around 74-78

thekoimaiden 02-06-2012 01:28 AM

According to the chub can survive temps up to 86F and the bluegill up to 96F. So they will survive, but I don't know if it will have any long-term effects on the fish.

MinaMinaMina 02-06-2012 01:32 AM

Bluegills can get big, sometimes more than a foot, maybe even 16 inches! I think most end up at about 8 to 10 inches.

The other one, its hard to tell from the pix if it has lines of color horizontally on its side. Does it? If it does, then yup, TheKoiMaiden's right, chub. But if its more solid colored, I'd guess female red shiner. So, depending on which species, 3 to 7 inches.

What are you going to do with them? They can't stay where they are, both because of the prospective size of the bluegills and because neither of these are tropical fish. They need colder temps or they will have many health problems.

Good luck!

brokenrules69 02-06-2012 01:57 AM

i have no clue what i am doing with themm the guy that gave me the tank apparently had the tank running for more then a year
what do u suspect i do?
if i put them back in the wild wont they die from being domesticated and fed for so long and also the grave temperature difference from the air outside in ny now at like 30-40degrees in ny now i would have to wait until the summer now anyway

MinaMinaMina 02-06-2012 02:18 AM

On returning fish to the wild, I have no clue. Start with contacting your local/state wildlife office. There can be some very strict laws about releasing captive fish, even those that were once wild. Best to leave that kind of decision to the experts. But at least you have a few more months before warm weather hits to figure things out.

thekoimaiden 02-06-2012 02:24 AM

They won't die from being domesticated. Look at the animals that have escaped from captivity in Florida and are now established there. Oscars, tilapia, pythons, lion fish. The list goes on. They will be fine. The biggest question is the legality of it. I know in VA there is a law prohibiting something that has been taken from the wild and held in captivity to be released. I'm not sure if NY has the same law, but it is something worth looking into. Or if you do it just make sure the game warden isn't around that day. ;)

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