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DrivingMissFishy 02-02-2012 03:51 PM

Stocking 100 Gal African
Hi everyone, ive had my 100 gal african setup going nicely for a while now, but recently ive managed to get way too many fish! Been buying some equipment second-hand and keeping all the fish people have offered me. So i was wondering if you guys could hep me nut out a final stocking list of this tank, and ill have to move the excess fish on to pet stores or the like. Im open to getting new fish if you think that different species work better together. Im not really looking to breed but if the fish decide to thats great. So im looking for a permanent stocklist, like so the fish will be happy once they are mature. i just have WAY too many but cant decide what to keep! Here's what ive got (plz forgive spelling)
4 x Metraclima msobo magunga
5 x labidochromis chisumulae
6 x neolamprologus brichardi
4 x labidochromis caeruleus(1 male 3 female)
2 x placidochromis phenocilus (male)
1 x placidochromis electra
1 x labidochromis hongi (male)
1 x lastatotilapia latifasciata
1 x psedotropheus aceii
1 x aulonocara jacobfreibergi (male)
1 x cynotilapia pulpican (male)
1 x copadochromis azureus (male)
i also have a nimbochromis polystigma & n.linni but ill be moving those on over the weekend.
thanks so much guys!!!

Tazman 02-02-2012 05:02 PM

Metriaclima sp. "Msobo" - Aggressive (Remove)
aulonocara jacobfreibergi - Peacocks should not be kept with mbuna (remove)
Neolamprologus brichardi - Extremely Aggressive (Remove)
4 x labidochromis caeruleus(1 male 3 female) - Add 1 Female, can live with almost

2 x placidochromis phenocilus (male) - VERY NICE (KEEP 1 and some females - grows to 10")
1 x placidochromis electra - Also nice fish but will be aggressive if kept with the phenocilus - either keep it or remove the phenocilus
1 x labidochromis hongi (male) - can be kept but you would need females and can be aggressive towards the labidochromis caeruleus
1 x lastatotilapia latifasciata - Actually called Astatotilapia latifasciata - KEEP, nice colored fish ( you want 1 male to 3-4 Females)
1 x psedotropheus aceii - Keep, one of only a few Lake Malawi that hang out on the top levels of the tank -1 Male to 4 Female ratio needed to keep aggression low.
1 x cynotilapia pulpican (male) - now called Metriaclima pulpican , Aggressive, if you decide to keep add at least 7 females
1 x copadochromis azureus (male) Nice fish, needs at least one female and can sometimes be aggressive.

Before I add what you can stock with them....what is the LENGTH of your tank, not so much worried on Height and Width, length is important.

There is a mix of mbuna and Haps here, so you need to decide which way to go.

labidochromis caeruleus
abidochromis hongi
psedotropheus aceii
Metriaclima pulpican

Rest are all Haplochromines

DrivingMissFishy 02-02-2012 07:10 PM

The length is about 130cm on back, the frot is a little more as it's a bow front
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Tazman 02-02-2012 07:35 PM

ok, so about 4 feet long

Decide if you would want to keep the mbuna or go with the haps.

Tazman 02-02-2012 07:41 PM

I would look at keeping 1 male to 4 female of the following

Copadichromis azureus
Placidochromis phenochilus
Otopharynx lithobates
Protomelas - any of the species.
and the labidochromis caeruleus but add one female from the group you already have.

If you decide to keep the mbuna then I will offer suggestions for them.

DrivingMissFishy 02-03-2012 12:36 AM

I forgot to mention i have some fry of labeotropheus fuelleborni & cynotilapia afra (yellow/cobwe im not exactly sure) i was planning on growing up and adding to the tank. how would these fit? i think my faves are:
labidochromis chisumulae
labidochromis caeruleus
placidochromis phenocilus
copadochromis azureus

i was hoping to have a mix of different colours when the fish become adults, but it seems most i have now are going to turn out blue! not that thats bad, my c.azureus has begun to mature recently and has developed some stunning colours! is the best ratio for all the above species 1:4? thanks for all the help. im still a newby when it comes to african cichlids!

Tazman 02-03-2012 08:27 AM

Mixing to of the same genus can lead to aggression so I would perhaps only add one of the labidochromis,

Labeotropheus fuelleborni is rather aggressive and may not be the best mix. The cynotilapia afra...1 male to 4 Female would work.

If you want a variation of color then, keeping the labidochromis (yellow), cynotilapia or acei (purples) and the placidochromis phenocilus / copadochromis azureus (blues).

Best color option would be keeping the aulonocara jacobfreibergi , placidochromis phenocilus, copadochromis azureus and the yellow labs, you can add more male auloncara for greater variration. Aim for about 15-20 fish maximum. Apart from the yellow labs, keeping all the fish mentioned here would give you an all male setup so no need to add females.

All male setups are the best for colors but can also be slightly more harder to take care might need another tank (20g) to house any fish that are showing aggression.

Hope this helps.

Tazman 02-03-2012 09:13 AM

I forgot to mention as well you need a lot of filtration for this tank, looking at between 1000-1500gph.

DrivingMissFishy 02-05-2012 03:44 AM

I originally had a whole bunch of male peacocks but decided against them and sold them off. They jst weren't too interesting in my opinion and the quality wasn't too great, they must be inbred alot around my area as they all show dark pigmenting and Various deformities (crooked faces/odd shaped bodies etc) I chose the best ones I saw but was concerned for their longevity.
Is it a bad idea to keep say 2 species as harums ( eg. electric yellow/phenocilus) and have some odd males of diff species eg azureus/latifasciata/aceii? Not necessarily those species but as an example.
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Tazman 02-06-2012 08:47 PM

You can do but stocking a tank that size with only 2 harems and a few other lone males will look understocked.

There is no problem in keeping a harem of fish from Lake Malawi unless you keep the big ones (Venestus etc) then you would only want one anyway.

The Yellow labs and phenocilus would be a good starter group in my opinion. If you go with males for the others, try and keep the colors different if you can, it will reduce the chances of aggression and or cross breeding. So noting else yellow or Blue basically.

Unless you have a store or place to get known males then you would have to buy groups anyway and wait until they are old enough to sex.

For your info, it took 1 1/2 years to fully stock my 180g tank with fish that worked and I wanted.

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