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small fry 01-27-2012 12:21 AM

10 gallon planted tank plans
Hey guys! Some of you may remember me? It has been awhile since I have been on the forum. Reason being, I haven't had anything to talk about, and frankly I've been sad about, well...

Recently I've moved. I used to have a beautiful 55 gallon Amazonian Bio-type that was low-tech and nicely planted. Unfortunately with the move, I couldn't keep up with the tank. There wasn't any room for the tank at the new house. Didn't lose many fish at all, but I lost all the plants, etc. It was a work in progress, not a complete low-tech setup.

Anyways, after the move, I have had to downsize my hobby to 2 small tanks. 123 gallons of water in my golden days, and now I am down to just 13 (a 10 and a 3). I have been really upset about this for a long time. I left a lot of my plants at the other house just to die I guess.

Tonight I decided that I was going to start a low-tech setup for my 10 gallon tank! I don't know why I didn't think about it before! I went to my old house and salvaged all the old plants I could (large java fern+small, aponogeton bulbs that still looked alive, some anacharis, and maybe some baby Amazon Sword, couldn't tell). I also grabbed the 18w 6,500k flouresent. I brought it home and stuck it all in a tank. Added a little bit too much Flourish, and turned on the lights. Text cannot describe how excited I am! :-D

I want to make this an Asian Biotype. I know most of the plants I have in there aren't Asian. I eventually want to add a Gold Gourami after I stabilize the tank.

I just had a few questions.

It has been so long since my "golden days" of fishkeeping. I have completely forgotten my knowledge of plants. I was wondering what some pretty popular/hardy Asian plants were. I was wondering if someone could give just a few examples.

Also, I know Dwarf-hairgrass is mainly considered to be native to North America. I have always heard that you need CO2 if you are going to keep it. Is there any way to keep hairgrass in a small low-tech setup without CO2?

Lastly, I really want to add a bunch of plants in the tank. I have never ordered plants online, but I really would like to. I am wondering if anyone knows any good sites that are reputable, have a decent amount of stock, and won't charge an arm and a leg for shipping? I'd rather not pay for Next Day Air if I can help it. I've heard of other people shipping other people plants for under $10.

Any advice or information would be greatly appreciated! I would really like to get back into the hobby, and this would be a really neat way to do it!

Thanks! :-D

small fry,

MinaMinaMina 01-27-2012 12:48 AM

I'm excited for you! What fun!

I keep dwarf hairgrass without CO2 injection. I have 2 6500K T8 bulbs over it in a 21" deep tank. Its at pH 7.2, moderately hard, and 80 degrees. I wouldn't say that its growing like a weed, per se, but its doing okay. Its green and healthy and has sent out some runners. Its just slow.

As far as Asian plants, my book lists...
Asia- crypts, java fern, java moss, aponogeton, water wisteria, water star, ambulia, giant indian water star
Worldwide- bacopa, hornwort, hairgrass, hydrilla verticillata, duckweed, cabomba, water lettuce, sagittaria, vallisneria
Now, I don't know which are native and which are introduced/spread.

Good luck, and keep us posted!

MinaMinaMina 01-27-2012 12:51 AM

Wait, doesn't a Blue Gourami get, like, five inches?

Boredomb 01-27-2012 02:14 AM

I don't really have anything to add to what Mina has already said other then the Golden Gouramis can get up to 6" though more commonly around 4-5" in the aquarium trade. Still not a good idea for a 10 gallon.

Also nice to see you back Small Fry! Its been a while and glad to know you are getting back into this great hobby.

small fry 01-27-2012 07:32 AM

Yeah, I was thinking a gourami might be a little bit of a stretch. I actually had a friend who had one in a 1 gallon tank for a year (I told him that was a horrible idea, but he wouldn't listen). I might go with a Dwarf, but I won't make up my mind just yet. I've always heard that with blue gouramis, the reason they need a 15g tank is because of water quality, not space; but I'm not sure if I agree with that. Maybe not. :|

Anyways, yay! I'm so excited! Thanks for that list, MinaMinaMina! I will certainly further research the plants on it. I really appreciate it! :D

Hi boredomb. It's been awhile lol. Glad to see some familiar faces! :)

small fry 01-27-2012 07:47 AM

Ok guys. Don't know what I was thinking with the Gold Gourami. Forgot they got so huge. I've never seen one over 2 1/2", I can't imagine how large a 6" would be. Just heads up, I dropped that idea lol.

MinaMinaMina 01-27-2012 08:41 AM

Oops! Scratch Cabomba, I didn't mean that. I meant Water Milfoil! Sorry about that!

beetlebz 01-27-2012 04:48 PM

LOL i live on a lake in connecticut. i can go outside into the sand (they drain the lake for the winter) and dig up some frozen stiff brown milfoil, put it in a bag, and it will be bursting the bag when it gets there! The stuff is prolific to say the least. Its so funny to think of a plant that is invasive all over the world.

I think a single dwarf gourami or sparking gourami, some pygmy cories perhaps... it all depends on what your water looks like for ph and hardness :)

MinaMinaMina 01-27-2012 11:28 PM

Also, it might be worth looking into Echinodorus v. 'Oriental (Oriental Sword). I don't know much about their origin (maybe a hybrid?), but I know they get a reasonable size for a 10 gallon but need moderate to high light.

Also water sprite! And dwarf lily!

And when are those pix coming?! :-D

small fry 01-28-2012 09:08 AM

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I'm probably going to try to order the plants and get them Tuesday. I found out that Live Aquaria will ship plants for $14 next day air.

I am wondering how this list will work. I don't mind pruning down larger plants every once and awhile. I am not sure if this would be too many plants (or if there is any such thing as too many plants). Anyways, here is the list.
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What do you guys think? I am using Flourish Comprehensive as a fertilizer. I want to purchase some Flourite later this month, also. I am kind of short on funds, so no guarantee.

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