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bllauben 01-22-2012 04:06 PM

Question-newbie
 
Okay. I have a 10 gallon tank. My first tank. Have had it since November. I have 2 platties, 2 mollies and a betta and 2 otos. I've only had the platties and mollies since Friday evening. Saturday afternoon, the dalmation molly gave birth. I managed to "rescue" about 15 of the fry. About 12 or 13 survived the night. I was told to put them in a betta bubble bowl (basically a half gallon betta bowl with a lid and a light--not the most IDEAL set up). I have a lamp with a CFL bulb in it. I also have a space heater set on the lowest setting possible (with auto off) about two and a half feet away from the bowl.

I bought them fry food. A few of them have been eating. I think the others are still working on their yolk and should eat tonight.

Anyways, what do I do with them? I am thinking about selling them or adopting them out, but how big should they be before I do that? At what point should I take them out of the betta bowl and put them in a larger container? I'm pretty sure I should not add them back into my tank (I don't want to over crowd anyone). If need be, I can rig up a bigger make shift tank.

Yes, I know mollies are prolific breeders. I orginally thought, "Cool! Free fish food!" Then, I got suckered into rescuing the fry and had nightmares seeing the adults eat the unlucky fry (I dreamt that I was swallowing my fish whole, alive and kept having to replenish my tank). Yeah....

Advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Beth

Pisces47 01-22-2012 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bllauben (Post 959902)
Okay. I have a 10 gallon tank. My first tank. Have had it since November. I have 2 platties, 2 mollies and a betta and 2 otos. I've only had the platties and mollies since Friday evening. Saturday afternoon, the dalmation molly gave birth. I managed to "rescue" about 15 of the fry. About 12 or 13 survived the night. I was told to put them in a betta bubble bowl (basically a half gallon betta bowl with a lid and a light--not the most IDEAL set up). I have a lamp with a CFL bulb in it. I also have a space heater set on the lowest setting possible (with auto off) about two and a half feet away from the bowl.

I bought them fry food. A few of them have been eating. I think the others are still working on their yolk and should eat tonight.

Anyways, what do I do with them? I am thinking about selling them or adopting them out, but how big should they be before I do that? At what point should I take them out of the betta bowl and put them in a larger container? I'm pretty sure I should not add them back into my tank (I don't want to over crowd anyone). If need be, I can rig up a bigger make shift tank.

Yes, I know mollies are prolific breeders. I orginally thought, "Cool! Free fish food!" Then, I got suckered into rescuing the fry and had nightmares seeing the adults eat the unlucky fry (I dreamt that I was swallowing my fish whole, alive and kept having to replenish my tank). Yeah....

Advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Beth

I had a bit of a laugh when I read this, it's the perennial problem and everyone goes through it.
The survivors won't last long in the bowl, they need filtration and proper heating just like their larger selves.
Put them in the "larger make-shift tank" you mentioned because you will be stuck with them for about 3 months before your local aquarium store will even consider taking them back (they may take them back sooner but it will only be as food for their own fish).
The moment your heart melted and you became a softie was the moment you gave yourself a headache as well, three months or so will give you plenty of time to find homes for them.

bllauben 01-23-2012 10:10 AM

Thanks. I had a few survivors. They went back in the main tank until I can get a set up for them. They are being smart by staying away from the bigger fish, though, my betta is in hunting over drive. He's like a hound with his nose stuck in a rabbit hole. He wants those fry. But, the fry are getting a bit bigger and stronger. Survival of the fittest I guess. Thanks!

Pisces47 01-23-2012 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bllauben (Post 960581)
Thanks. I had a few survivors. They went back in the main tank until I can get a set up for them. They are being smart by staying away from the bigger fish, though, my betta is in hunting over drive. He's like a hound with his nose stuck in a rabbit hole. He wants those fry. But, the fry are getting a bit bigger and stronger. Survival of the fittest I guess. Thanks!

Damned rabbits!
Here's another tip for you. If you have a "hang off the back" type filter, occasionally check inside it because they are notorious for sucking up fry. Your poor old Betta may get the blame but be totally innocent. Any fry found inside your filter should be okay once you get them out so look inside it at least once a day. The most fry I've ever found in my filter was 8 in one go! It's quite common to find 1 or 2. This problem only lasts for 2 or 3 weeks till they are too big to fit between the slits in the filter uptake pipe.

koi18 01-24-2012 05:41 AM

i don't have a testing kit..
 
i don't have an ammonia testing kit but i only have the ph kit is that enough?

also even though i don't have the ammonia kit i think that i should just do water change everyday till the cycle is over. i'm on the 3rd week..i guess...

any advice would be gladly appreciated. THANKS!

bllauben 01-26-2012 08:57 PM

Get a testing kit or see if a pet store will test your water for you. Are you doing an fish-in or fishless cycle? Fishless cycle is MUCH easier and faster than a fish-in.

Daily water changes-not the best idea in my opinion.

Tazman 01-26-2012 09:16 PM

It is totally impossible to know when the cycle is complete without having a test kit or having the water tested.

Ammonia and Nitrite are extremely harmful to fish and I strongly believe that no one should fish-in cycle. Without knowing what the Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate levels are, you know nothing about your water parameters and whether the bacteria colony is sufficient to support your bioload.

Simple thing to stop fry getting sucked into a filter is to put a piece of sock / foam or mesh bag round the bottom of the filter intake.

koi18 02-20-2012 08:46 PM

thanks for your reply guys...

my little tank is ok now and the fish living in it looks ok...

it has been 8 weeks since that last post and i believe everything is going fine...

Tazman 02-20-2012 08:57 PM

Believing and knowing are two separate things.

You need a test kit if you don't already have one. It is invaluable.

koi18 02-20-2012 09:08 PM

thanks tazman.. i will make sure that i'll be able to buy one this week.


on another note, i just started a 40 gallon tank yesterday and i have zebra's to help cycle it.

i want it to be a community tank and what i have in mind is this:

3 Flying Foxes
1 common Pleco
12 Neon Tetras
1 Male Betta
2 Female Bettas


do you think i can add more? or do you have a much better combination in mind?

thanks again for your reply...


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