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TetraAquaria 12-15-2011 05:24 PM

tank mates for an Oscar...
 
So we have a large 75 gallon with an oscar and 2 plecos.

My mom only keeps fish for decoration, and truth be told, our oscar and plecos aren't that attractive. Her only options are:
Wait for them to die
or get tank mates.

We have a 13 year old pleco, a 7 year old oscar, and a 2-3 year old pleco.

We were wondering, what Kind of tank mates, if any, could we get?

Thanks!
~TatraAquaria

rrcoolj 12-15-2011 06:08 PM

None.. IMO that tank is maxed. What kind of plecos are they? I they are commons than you defiantly should look intt upgrading.

TetraAquaria 12-15-2011 06:10 PM

I don't really know what kind.
We actually have 3 different kinds, though we don't know what they are.

Lee Gordon 12-15-2011 07:54 PM

Sorry to say, that tank is too full as is. Oscars and Plecos get VERY large. Unfortunately, too many people buy these and put them in small tanks. The casual aquarist has no place keeping these fish unless they have a VERY large tank (150+ gal).

rrcoolj 12-15-2011 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TetraAquaria (Post 922142)
I don't really know what kind.
We actually have 3 different kinds, though we don't know what they are.

How big are they? If you got them from a place like petsmart they are probably commons and commons get HUGE. like 2ft huge.

Lee Gordon 12-15-2011 08:49 PM

If they are 2-3 years old, and the oscar is older, the keeper has a good idea of how big they are GETTING:lol:

TetraAquaria 12-15-2011 08:54 PM

She bought bought all 3 of the fish in the aquarium at our LFS. The oldest is about a foot and a half, the smallest is almost a foot. The 2 get along pretty well.

Her Oscar is most definitely sick though. He lays around the aquarium and only actively swims when hes hungry or if we buy it feeder fish...

My mom had 3 Oscars and a pleco in the same tank at one time. It was the one she has now, one she raised since it was a baby and died when it was like 12, and then just one that I can't even remember.

I must also put out there that I am in no way responsible for the amount of fish she has in that tank, their aliments, and whatever else may have been done wrong.

I've never had any luck with anything bigger then a Tetra or a betta....

Anyway, I'm sure there is a fine amount of things that need to be done.

Lee Gordon 12-15-2011 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TetraAquaria (Post 922328)
She bought bought all 3 of the fish in the aquarium at our LFS. The oldest is about a foot and a half, the smallest is almost a foot. The 2 get along pretty well.

Her Oscar is most definitely sick though. He lays around the aquarium and only actively swims when hes hungry or if we buy it feeder fish...

My mom had 3 Oscars and a pleco in the same tank at one time. It was the one she has now, one she raised since it was a baby and died when it was like 12, and then just one that I can't even remember.

I must also put out there that I am in no way responsible for the amount of fish she has in that tank, their aliments, and whatever else may have been done wrong.

I've never had any luck with anything bigger then a Tetra or a betta....

Anyway, I'm sure there is a fine amount of things that need to be done.


No one is saying you are responsible. I see this story every day. If you have a good local fish store they may take in the large fish for customers setting up big tanks. Talk to privately owned fish stores. Just don't ask Petco or Petsmart. Good luck, but the Oscar is clearly out of space, and without large water changes on a daily basis, he probably won't last long. The key to getting him healthy is to do really large water changes as frequently as possible.

Lee

TetraAquaria 12-15-2011 09:05 PM

I see... I'll have to ask her what she thinks.

I don't think she'll be buying a bigger tank anytime soon... I think she's just kinda waiting for it to dye so she can get like Angelfish and stuff.

I'm not sure about giving it to the petstore because she's "put a lot of money" into the fish.
But like I said, I'll ask and see.

1077 12-15-2011 11:32 PM

I agree with other's ,there is significant waste being produced by current resident's in mom's tank and water changes are the way to dilute the toxin's from said waste.
Much of what the Oscar and other large cichlids eat , is taken in through their mouth's and as much as half escapes across the fishes gills and falls back to the substrate.
Combine this with waste produced (poop),and fishes are swimming in their own waste and frequently become sick without large weekly water changes to dilute the toxins, and frequent cleaning of filters which should be large enough to handle the bioload these fish represent.
Water in tank should test zero for ammonia and nitrites ,and nitrAtes should be 20 ppm or less all day,every day.
Feeder fish unless you are raising them, and offering them high quality food's, are very poor choice for large predatory fish.
These feeder's in fish stores are often kept in horrid condition's, and diseased fish are common in these condition's.
By offering these to the Oscar, disease is trasmitted to the Oscar.
Only takes one sick feeder fish to infect whole tank of feeder's, and they then pass along parasites or pathogen's to the Oscar once the feeder's are consumed.
Quality pellet food 's for Oscar, along with occasional Meaty foods such as shrimp,krill,earthworm,cricket's,crayfish, would be much better from nutritional standpoint.


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