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Austin 09-11-2011 04:18 AM

50g fish tank :)
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:) This is my 50g tank. finally got the background up. It was 2 black posterboards, 50 cents each at the dollar store. As you can see tho I still have random plants floating around that's been like that for 3 months! D: And still haven't gotten around to getting the 2nd correct lighting, but I do rotate it every week or so. I actually just ordered it. :) Plants have grown a bit. I recently am having some illness going through the tank... idk what it's from. :( Fish seem to get hunched shape and then die... can't figure it out. =/ But anyways here's a pic! Lemme know what you think!

And here's what it looked like last time I posted:

JoeFish80 09-11-2011 09:47 PM

How long has the tank been up? Could be a nitrate or amonia issue. I'm running a bit of a risk in spike in my own 55 due to a somewhat iresponsible tank upgrade, swapped from a 20 to a 55. I think i'll be ok though, isn't much different than a 50 percent water change. Which isn't uncommon. What sort of fish are falling dead?

Austin 09-11-2011 10:10 PM

My guppies, platies, and recently one of my balloon mollys. :( My siamese algae eater has been fine. So has my kuli loach and shrimp. It's been up for several months. I last posted pictures of it in May. It may have been a nitrate spike or something, since I had quite a few fish because of combining my tanks together. Some fish seem really healthy and it seems to be the less healthy looking ones dropping dead (the smaller platies, etc). They seem to start getting a fungus type thing on them and their body hunches over. Right now my balloon molly has been swimming kind of wobbly and her fins seem more stuck together. And I just saw her rubbing against the rocks. She still eats. I can't seem to diagnose the problem, it's tricky to get pictures of my fish and I don't know any disease like this. I've changed the water 2 times in the past week and a half. 20 gallons each time (about half the tank with the displaced water from gravel etc). I'll test the ammonia and nitrate and nitrite soon i suppose.

JoeFish80 09-11-2011 10:17 PM

Take a look at

Fish Tuberculosis

Might be what your looking out, sounds like a disease more than anything and not some random stress issue.

Austin 09-12-2011 03:06 AM

Jeeze, that sounds horrible... not even sure what to do? Kill all the fish in my tank?? What? D:

JoeFish80 09-12-2011 03:41 PM

It might not be that. Just a possibility. If you have a small second tank I'd remove the sick fish to simply move them away from the others and hope they pull through. Another option would be to take one of the dead fish to a local aquarium store they might be able to diagnose the illness and offer some meds to help you out.

Austin 09-12-2011 06:11 PM

Considering I've noticed a 100% death rate of fish pretty quickly after they show signs, it may be best to euthanize the ones who catch the disease. I don't have another small fish tank - I ended up getting rid of my other fish tanks when I got my larger one (was a deal with my parents who are the opposite of pack rats like me.)

The interpretation I have from that website you linked is - kill all the fish and sanitize the tank. Well, that's a huge undertaking and something I won't do unless I know for sure that's my problem. My fish don't exhibit all the signs but quite a few, but even then you can't be sure. Can fish stores really tell the disease from a corpse? I believe it said the way to diagnose was under a microscope. What am I supposed to ask them?

Another concern I have is, even if I separated the fish, and let them heal, will the TB remain dormant even if my fish are healthy enough to fight it off? I bite my nails and always have cuts on my hands so I don't want to get it. And also, if the fish remain, and appear healthy, can they still carry the disease? I had a fish before that someone here I think suspected might have had TB. It healed up, surprisingly almost completely, but after a bit it caught the disease back again and died.

JoeFish80 09-12-2011 07:40 PM

Afraid I can't give much more advice. I personally haven't delt with TB so only know what I've read and haven't read that much.

As far as aquarium stores being able to tell which disease depends on the store I figure. There's one around where I live thats pretty good at it, then a number of others that are a bit useless.

What I would do is test the water, make sure the nitrates and ammonia levels are safe, if they aren't fix that problem and go from there.

Austin 09-12-2011 08:42 PM

Okay thanks. Maybe I'll ask on here. I looked up for a while on fish TB and I honestly didn't find much useful information... Like, even the article you linked me didn't give a very detailed solution. It says, well, maybe you can treat it over 3 months with some stuff and gives no other info on dosage etc or if it even works (lots of places say there's no real cure).

JoeFish80 09-12-2011 11:50 PM

yeah and thats really just one possibility, its hard to say what it could be. I'd prolly start with the water check that and go from there.

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