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fishkid 08-06-2011 06:29 PM

Tiger Endlers with no libido?
I currently have some tiger endlers in addition to some tetras, hatchetfish, and cories in my 46 gallon tank. Currently, it is one male with several females. The male has excellent colors, and is constantly displaying to the females. However, he never gets lucky, and the females always swim away from him. All the fish are healthy, and the tank is decently planted. I thought that endlers were supposed to breed like mad. Does anyone have any ideas as to the cause of my problem?

eileen 08-06-2011 11:46 PM

Be careful what you wish for. I have Tiger endlers, metalic endlers, pink scarlet endlers and I did not have any males. The females were already pregnate because a few months later I have babies babies and more babies. If he is the only male you will have offspring. Some of your females may be pregnate from where ever you got them from as they can store sperm for several months with out a male and produce offspring. My female endlers always chase the male away but I always seem to have baby fry. So the nice looking male you have may not be the father of the offspring if the females were in a mixed tank with other males prior to you getting it.

To keep the population down on so many fry being born I bought a angelfish the size of a quarter and the fry went down from 20+ to about 4 since adding the angelfish.You may have to do the same as they have babies every 28-30 days every month and every drop they seem to produce more offspring.

They do breed like rabbits and in no time you will be overwhelmed by way to many baby fish. My endlers do not seem to eat the offspring so I have an overload most of the time.

fishkid 08-09-2011 11:47 AM

I've had them for some time actually, but did not have much time to care for my tanks most of the year. I have moved the male and 2 females to a 10 gallon tank. The male seems to be getting more intense with his displays, but the females are still not showing much interest. In fact, they will chase him away sometimes.

eileen 08-09-2011 12:24 PM

Pics. of my endler types
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Well, Mine chase the male away all the time and he always displays all the time and chases the females all around. I always have alot of babies every month. I'm getting rid of all my pink/red scarlet endlers as I have to many different types so I'm sending them off to a friend. The females you have may be to young yet to have babies. You can tell when they are pregnate as their gravid spot on the back bottom area will turn a dark black color and their stomach area will get really big. Some endlers also eat thier young. I guess I was lucky to have parents that do not eat their own young. Most breeders will only keep the females/males that do not eat thier young this is also true for guppies. The male may be sterile but I dought it. Maybe they dropped fry and ate them.

What kind of endlers are they? I have some Metalic blue endlers I'm working on now and have some Blue tiger endlers I want to keep. The pink/red scarlet endlers will all be out of here soon. I have 7 tanks running 2 of them are QT baby fish tanks and I do not want to set up anymore tanks. When I get tired of a certain fish I rehome them. Here are some pics of the ones I have but I will find new homes for the scarlet endlers.

I have some offspring of Blue Pastel ribbon fin guppy/ that blue metalic endler now. I took virgin females from the pastel ribbon fin and but them in with the metalic blue one. The offspring now are the second drop. I'm trying to get that nice metalic blue color in the offspring. I'm keeping all the females that have the extended ribbon fins as those are rare. I also kept two offspring that are 1/2 black and I was able to get 1 male that came out 1/2 black with that blue neon look but I lost him this week as something went bad in my 6 gal. tank after a snail died and messed up the water with ammonia.

fishkid 08-09-2011 12:29 PM

As stated in the title, they are tiger endlers. If they did drop fry, the fry probably would have survived in a well planted 46 gallon (there's a dense thicket of vals). Is it possible to tell if a fish is sterile?

eileen 08-09-2011 12:51 PM

I'm not sure. I have a friend of mine that raises endlers hybrids and he had a few males with extended bottom fins that were really long next to the gonopodium and they could not breed but were really pretty looking. If you want a breeding pair when I get more offspring of my blue tigers I can send you some. You pay for shipping which runs like $10 USPS Priority Male 2-3 days to the East coast from my place here in San Diego. I ship in breather bags in a syrofoam insulated box. Nows a good time as they do not need a heat pack to ship them.

Where did you get your Tiger endlers? always has them for sale cheap under livebearers.My friend Frank268 sales alot of endlers on aquabid cheap. He also sells wild type also.He has some for $10 Tiger endlers in the Domesticated Livebearers section on aquabid.

fishkid 08-09-2011 02:25 PM

I got mine from Sweet Aquatics around a year ago actually. There might've been a few fry over the time I've had them, but if there were I wouldn't have noticed them as I was consumed with other stuff for most of the time I've owned them. The more mature female of the trio might be pregnant, as her stomach's still pretty big after withholding food for a day, but then again she's quite the glutton at feeding time so it could be that. The gravid spot doesn't seem to be particularly dark, but I will look again in a few days time.

Thanks for the offer, but I don't have the space for them right now. I have another spare tank, but I'm looking to keep some Japanese blue guppies in that one.

eileen 08-09-2011 02:38 PM

The tank you had them in was a Community tank with Tetras, Hatchet fish and Cories so they may have been eaten by the other fish even though you have a heavly planted tank. My angelfish managed to eat like 20+ baby Tiger endler fry that was at the surface and in my floating plants in my 30 gal. I fished out the 4 remaining ones and put them in a 6 gal. tank to grow out.

If you are going to get Japan blue guppies you will have more fry them you an handle once they reproduce. I may move all of my nice looking males to my 30 gal. Black/ Blue themed bow front tank. All fish are either Black or blue in color. The school of neons have some red but other then that I just keep blk/blue fish in that tank with a black background and pool filter sand.

fishkid 08-09-2011 03:54 PM

Well the cories and hatchets are rather recent additions. And I haven't had much luck reproducing livebearers except swordtails anyways, but hopefully they'll reproduce. When I first got the tiger endlers I thought I'd be overrun with them by now but I guess not.

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