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deman3 07-30-2011 07:42 AM

Mixing Kenyi and demanosi?
 
Would anyone recommend this? Right now I have a 1m/3f mix of Kenyi Cichlids. I found someone on craigslist that may be willing to part with his 1 demanosi cichlid. Due to the aggressive nature of the demanosi would this pose any potential risks to the kenyis already in the tank?

rrcoolj 07-30-2011 12:21 PM

Well one demasoni isn't going to pose much of a problem but because your tank is so under stocked, the male kenyi might decide to kill him. You have to overstock mbuna tanks to dilute aggression. And since you have started with an already very aggressive species at this point I would stick to other very aggressive species. Demasoni are nasty to eachother but fairly even tempered to other mbuna species.

deman3 07-30-2011 02:13 PM

My syndontis is rather large to the tune of about 5-6 inches. How under stocked do you consider my tank to be?

rrcoolj 07-30-2011 03:56 PM

Mbunas need to be stocked with other mbunas not an assortment of other fish. In the lake they are crowded with other mbunas so the aggression is distributed. For example when I had my mbuna tank I had...

4 yellow labs
4 scolofi
4 red zebra

All species had a 1m 3f ratio. This was in a 55 gallon tank and at the time I was still thinking of adding new fish but the tank did fairly well. You can add more demasoni but because of their aggression with eachother I wouldn't get less than like 12. But because you have kenyi who are very aggressive adding other mbuna especially since they have established themselves in the tank will be difficult.

deman3 07-30-2011 10:02 PM

I might just get more Kenyi, I havent gotten the demanosi so that is nothing to worry about. I also found out a way to sex them while they are young that has so far been accurate so I will be able to get the ratio correct without having to take any back.

rrcoolj 07-31-2011 08:08 AM

Male kenyi will turn yellow and females will remain blue. That's how you can sex ,mature ones visually. Or you can vent them. You can get more kenyi but only females. More than one male WILL NOT get along in anything less than a 6ft aquarium. They are extremely aggressive toward eachother especially males.

deman3 07-31-2011 09:03 AM

I knew this but another thing that I noticed is that only the males have the spot on the anal fin. No females that I have seen that are old enough to sex have this. So far this way hasnt failed me. I can go into a store and see half the juvi's have the spot and half dont. So if I want a male thats what I get.

rrcoolj 07-31-2011 09:48 AM

A lot of people will use that method but it is not full proof. Some female mbunas will still show egg spots on the anal fin.

car0linab0y 07-31-2011 10:10 AM

I wouldn't recommend it... Male Dems and female Kenyi will cross-breed.

deman3 07-31-2011 04:11 PM

So right now I am thinking 3-4 more Kenyi females. I really like my large Syn. I found more that are about its size do you think I would overpopulate my tank by getting another? Would the two fight?


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