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broken1 07-09-2011 07:25 PM

Hello, new fish keeper here
 
hey guys, how are you today?

I am new to fish keeping and very exited about it.
I currently have a huge 55gallon aquarium with 3 oscars 2 allergy eaters and 4 blood parrots.
For filtration I have a filter that flows a whopping 200 gallons an hour and a bubble wand.
As soon as i figgure out how to post pics I will.

ladayen 07-09-2011 07:43 PM

Welcome to the forums.

Now on to other stuff, if you look at the profile here for oscar fish (it should be highlighted, and you can click on it) you will see that a 55 gallon tank isn't big enough for a single oscar, with 3 in there it will most probably result in a fight to the death.

The parrots also grow quite large and like oscars can be quite messy. This will quite quickly lead to toxic water.
What type of algae(you said allergy, assuming that was a typo) eaters do you have?

broken1 07-09-2011 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ladayen (Post 729229)
Welcome to the forums.

Now on to other stuff, if you look at the profile here for oscar fish (it should be highlighted, and you can click on it) you will see that a 55 gallon tank isn't big enough for a single oscar, with 3 in there it will most probably result in a fight to the death.

The parrots also grow quite large and like oscars can be quite messy. This will quite quickly lead to toxic water.
What type of algae(you said allergy, assuming that was a typo) eaters do you have?

I think they are called common placos and I am not doubting you but the lady at the fish store said that 3 oscars are ok for a 55 gallon

OscarLoverJim 07-09-2011 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broken1 (Post 729237)
I think they are called common placos and I am not doubting you but the lady at the fish store said that 3 oscars are ok for a 55 gallon

a 55 gallon is way too small for 3 oscars and they will get sick. we have one oscar in a 55 and that is hardly big enough for him. i wish we could afford a 75 gallon.

brownmane 07-09-2011 08:51 PM

Welcome. I find the best quick reference here is "Tropical Fish Profiles" tab for an overview about fish descriptions, feeding etc. As I am fairly new to fish keeping, I refer to it often. It helped me choose the fish that I started with (lemon tetras and corydoras) for my tank.

Also, as you get going, you can post any question that you might have and there are a lot of people with a lot of knowledge.

Beaches 07-09-2011 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by broken1 (Post 729237)
I am not doubting you but the lady at the fish store said that 3 oscars are ok for a 55 gallon

Hi :wave: broken1 and Welcome to the forum.


If I may give you a tip, ;-) one of the biggest mistakes we make and one of the most important lessons people learn in this hobby (usually learnt the hard way/after the fact) is to.....NEVER just take the advice of an employee at a LFS, for the most part they are just in the business of making money, many don't have the knowledge either to give accurate advice, but will say anything to make a sale, Please ALWAYS do your own Research into the fish you want beforehand!

ladayen 07-09-2011 09:42 PM

As beaches has already pointed out, the vast majority of pet store employees( and managers/owners too for that matter) have very little knowledge about any of their products, live or otherwise. Alot of the ones that know what they are talking about will flat out lie to your face to make a buck. They are a business, designed to make money. If you keep coming back to buy more fish because yours keep dying, it simply means more money for them.

Common Plecos, like many other "algae eaters" generally will stop eating algae once past the juvenile stage. These also will grow 12"+ I had a common pleco that came with a tank I bought. I thought it was quite big, until I donated it to my LFS and saw some of the others that they had. This was due to the fact that the tank was only 35g and had resulted in stunted growth. Dont confuse this with "growing to the size of the tank". That is a myth. Fish are just like humans and will only stop growing when they are at full size for their genetics. Stunting growth means that the fish is unhealthy and will die much earlier then it should.

In all honesty I would see if you can return ALL your fish to the store and start over. I dont mean to sound like I'm yelling at you, I'm just rather angry that the store would give you such false information.

broken1 07-09-2011 09:43 PM

I have a confession to tell you guys,

The truth is I am a experienced fish keeper with 15 years or so under my belt.
I had to test the water with you guys because the fish site I have been a member for for the last couple of years seems to be too hard on "noobs" and I am getting tired of there constant flaming when someone new to the hobby does not know better than to trust a employee at a LFS and buys too many fish for an aquarium.

CONGRATULATIONS You guys passed the test!!!!

Now my real setups
100gal growout tank with 10 silver dollars
560gal main tank in progress

broken1 07-09-2011 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladayen (Post 729356)
As beaches has already pointed out, the vast majority of pet store employees( and managers/owners too for that matter) have very little knowledge about any of their products, live or otherwise. Alot of the ones that know what they are talking about will flat out lie to your face to make a buck. They are a business, designed to make money. If you keep coming back to buy more fish because yours keep dying, it simply means more money for them.

Common Plecos, like many other "algae eaters" generally will stop eating algae once past the juvenile stage. These also will grow 12"+ I had a common pleco that came with a tank I bought. I thought it was quite big, until I donated it to my LFS and saw some of the others that they had. This was due to the fact that the tank was only 35g and had resulted in stunted growth. Dont confuse this with "growing to the size of the tank". That is a myth. Fish are just like humans and will only stop growing when they are at full size for their genetics. Stunting growth means that the fish is unhealthy and will die much earlier then it should.

In all honesty I would see if you can return ALL your fish to the store and start over. I dont mean to sound like I'm yelling at you, I'm just rather angry that the store would give you such false information.

I was waiting for someone to mention how big my "allergy eater" would get lol.

alidawn15 07-09-2011 10:24 PM

Those aren't tanks. Those are swimming pools!:shock:


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