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mjbn 07-05-2011 01:29 PM

20Gallon and 10Gallon stocking ideas!
 
So i feel that my 20 gallon is a bit overstocked, and i know my 10 gallon is still understocked because i'm basically focusing on making my 20G perfect before moving on to my 10G. I'm almost complete with my "projects" on my 20G, so i wanna fix up my 10G. Rightnow there are a couple fake plants, planning on getting a versa top, and making a lgiht fixture like i did for my 20G. Anyways, as for stocking here are my thoughts

20G: Fake and real plants
- 8 Neon Tetras
- 5 Cherry Barbs
- 5 mixed Kuhli Loaches OR 3 Black Kuhli Loaches(i have 2 stripped, 3 black: may split them up since they do not hangout together anyways)
- 3 Otos (5 in rightnow)
- 2 Guppies

10G: Gonna add real plants, keeping the fake as well.
- 4 Female Bettas
- 2 Otos
- **2 Kuhli Loaches (if i split them from the 20G)


Is the 20G overstocked? I feel like it's "pushing" it, but my bacteria colony is pretty well established in that tank, as well as having around 6 stems of amazon sword, 5 stems of water wisteria, and another 2 stems of plants that i'm not sure of. haha Anyways, any input is greatly appreciated!

Byron 07-05-2011 05:17 PM

I am assuming this is a "wish list" and not already acquired fish. In the 20g, I would not have both the neon tetra and cherry barb. Either or. There is no room for either in the 10g.

Byron.

LasColinasCichlids 07-05-2011 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mjbn (Post 724448)
So i feel that my 20 gallon is a bit overstocked, and i know my 10 gallon is still understocked because i'm basically focusing on making my 20G perfect before moving on to my 10G. I'm almost complete with my "projects" on my 20G, so i wanna fix up my 10G. Rightnow there are a couple fake plants, planning on getting a versa top, and making a lgiht fixture like i did for my 20G. Anyways, as for stocking here are my thoughts

20G: Fake and real plants
- 8 Neon Tetras
- 5 Cherry Barbs
- 5 mixed Kuhli Loaches OR 3 Black Kuhli Loaches(i have 2 stripped, 3 black: may split them up since they do not hangout together anyways)
- 3 Otos (5 in rightnow)
- 2 Guppies

10G: Gonna add real plants, keeping the fake as well.
- 4 Female Bettas
- 2 Otos
- **2 Kuhli Loaches (if i split them from the 20G)


Is the 20G overstocked? I feel like it's "pushing" it, but my bacteria colony is pretty well established in that tank, as well as having around 6 stems of amazon sword, 5 stems of water wisteria, and another 2 stems of plants that i'm not sure of. haha Anyways, any input is greatly appreciated!

The plans for the 10g are what concerns me. Multiple female bettas, sorority, should never take place in a tank under 29g! There isnt enough room for the bettas to escape and hide from the others. And female bettas get pretty large, and a 10g just wont hold them properly. I foresee many issues with them in that tank size. As for the kuhli loaches, there should always be at least 5 in a group for them to thrive.

I see Byron didnt go into detail on why cherry barb and neon tetra shouldnt be housed together, but I assume he is considering their temp and water parameter needs being different, as well as their food differences, as neons are carnivores and cherry barbs are omnivores (tetra makes a nice mixed food to feed all, even though its rather pricey and the crisps are large, crushing them prior to feeding works great). I keep my last 2 neons with my cherry barbs, which I know I shouldnt, but I am trying to find them a nice home, as I know they much prefer a cooler temp than what my barbs enjoy. And I agree with Byron that that many of those fish species wont happily fit into that tank size.

And I feel as though your 20g is overstocked, as well as the 10g from the lists you provided. Regardless of filtration and live plants, overstocking causes stress on the fish and aggression from a fish they wouldnt normally be aggressive if in a situation of either a larger tank with the same amount of fish, or in the same size tank with less amounts of fish. I know my tanks are slightly overstocked (aqadvisor says they arent, but I feel as though they are), and am hoping by the middle of the month to have the stock lowered and set for less stress on my fish.

mjbn 07-05-2011 06:14 PM

The lists above are like byron said "wish lists." I wanna get everything right before i go ahead and buy more fish. For the female bettas, i already have 4 in my 20 gallon and they get along nicely, but like you said, i'm worried that if i put them in my 10G, the smaller room will create more stress/aggression. As for kuhli's, regular stripped are SOOO hard to find in my area, had there been more, i would've gotten 5, but there were only two left at the place i bought them from almost 6 months ago. Same with black kuhli loaches. i'm looking forward to accommodating them with their exact species.

So rightnow, i'm fixed on NOT buying barbs, or any new fish for that matter, but instead accommodating the fish i have, such as the kuhli's properly. I'm not in a rush to get new fish, unless those horrible "impulses" to buy new fish comes,

Byron 07-05-2011 08:39 PM

I would leave the loaches together; they are close enough species that being in the same space is probably providing more for them than if they were separated.

My concern over the neons and cheery was more space; these are not "small" fish really if they reach their potential, and a 20g is not that much space.

Neil D 07-05-2011 10:16 PM

The sorority is fine. I think you should skip the cories, and have 6 female bettas. Go to the betta site for more details: Betta Fish and Betta Fish Care

You should also be a member there too.
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LasColinasCichlids 07-05-2011 11:37 PM

A sorority of female bettas in a 10 gallon is not fine.


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