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CataclysmKitten 05-15-2011 06:14 AM

Glolight and Neon Tetra Help
 
Please, I am so confused with my new GloLite Tetras. I wanted to pair them with Neon Tetras, but the neons got sucked into the filter. I use a dash of aquarium salt in new water, and tap water conditioner. The poor neon tetras got sucked into the filter and died. So I added the pantyhose-rubber band technique. So far so good.:-)

I was really upset, and I do have test strips. I've yet to test though, for it being so early in the morning.

But the only thing I know is that GloLites and Neons are Characins. Someone lead me to an informative thread or something of the nature, because there are only two glolites in there and I know there should be at LEAST five. :-?

Help, Please. You may also email me privately at VivicaPfeiffer@gmail.com

Thank you.

-Nika

tophat665 05-16-2011 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CataclysmKitten (Post 674413)
Please, I am so confused with my new GloLite Tetras. I wanted to pair them with Neon Tetras, but the neons got sucked into the filter. I use a dash of aquarium salt in new water, and tap water conditioner. The poor neon tetras got sucked into the filter and died. So I added the pantyhose-rubber band technique. So far so good.:-)

I was really upset, and I do have test strips. I've yet to test though, for it being so early in the morning.

But the only thing I know is that GloLites and Neons are Characins. Someone lead me to an informative thread or something of the nature, because there are only two glolites in there and I know there should be at LEAST five. :-?

Help, Please. You may also email me privately at VivicaPfeiffer@gmail.com

Thank you.

-Nika

OK, Salt will not help them. Glo-Lites really appreciate a planted tank. The more cover they have to disappear into the more you'll see them and the more colorful they'll be. They also show better over a dark substrate. Yes, you need at least 5, and as you've noticed, the emphasis is on At Least. I recommend you get at least 10. They really do better in a bigger school. They prefer neutral water (soft and acid for breeding - you can keep them b/w ph 5 and 7 happily.) and are pretty flexible with the temperature (I'd keep them around 75 to 77, particularly if I were also keeping Neons, which prefer cooler tropical temperatures.)

So.... What are the specifics on the tank? Size, Temp, PH. What kind of filter? What room is it in (Glolites are a little skittish, so they don't do so well in a place where folks are forever walking by the tank. What other fish do you have in the tank? What sort of substrate, lighting, plants, and decorations? What's your vision for the tank? What do you want from it?

CataclysmKitten 05-16-2011 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tophat665 (Post 675413)

So.... What are the specifics on the tank? Size, Temp, PH. What kind of filter? What room is it in (Glolites are a little skittish, so they don't do so well in a place where folks are forever walking by the tank. What other fish do you have in the tank? What sort of substrate, lighting, plants, and decorations? What's your vision for the tank? What do you want from it?

The specifics of the tank are that it is a 3 gal, A steady 75 temperature, a Tetra 3i whisper filter for 3 gals. I was told the pantyhose will also soften the water, is this true?

Reading at 9am after finding one poor glo-lite deceased:
Nitrates=0
Hardness=25 (Very Soft)
Chlorine=0
Alkalinity=120
pH=6.8
Ammonia=no strips for that, but the same water was tested yesterday at the store so i could get a refund on the neons that died.

The Glo-s are next to my laptop, and another desk, so there isn't a lot of movement. Do they like lots of light? I know they like plants to hide in. I make sure to get silk plants so they don't get cut. I'll take a picture soon, because I want the background to look like a tropical paradise. I want them to feel at home.

Substrate: Smooth Gravel
Lighting: Led dim light so they can see at night over the tank; 60w lamp behind (not on much) and natural light.
Decorations: Right now only a skull. I want to get them a mini arch or cave though, since they're bottom dwellers.

My vision for this tank is to keep them happy and give them a good life. I love the sound of the filter, and watching them is so calming.

Thank you for your reply... any suggestions? :-)

tophat665 05-16-2011 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CataclysmKitten (Post 675452)
The specifics of the tank are that it is a 3 gal, A steady 75 temperature, a Tetra 3i whisper filter for 3 gals. I was told the pantyhose will also soften the water, is this true?

Reading at 9am after finding one poor glo-lite deceased:
Nitrates=0
Hardness=25 (Very Soft)
Chlorine=0
Alkalinity=120
pH=6.8
Ammonia=no strips for that, but the same water was tested yesterday at the store so i could get a refund on the neons that died.

The Glo-s are next to my laptop, and another desk, so there isn't a lot of movement. Do they like lots of light? I know they like plants to hide in. I make sure to get silk plants so they don't get cut. I'll take a picture soon, because I want the background to look like a tropical paradise. I want them to feel at home.

Substrate: Smooth Gravel
Lighting: Led dim light so they can see at night over the tank; 60w lamp behind (not on much) and natural light.
Decorations: Right now only a skull. I want to get them a mini arch or cave though, since they're bottom dwellers.

My vision for this tank is to keep them happy and give them a good life. I love the sound of the filter, and watching them is so calming.

Thank you for your reply... any suggestions? :-)

1) Pantyhose will not soften the water.
2) 3 gallons is too small for glolights. Sorry. For a minimal school of 5 glolights, you want at least a 10 gallon tank simply so they have swimming room. 20 is more than twice as good for it. And a single skull decoration is not going to be enough to make them comfy regardless. With the setup you have, your best bet is a betta. Spring for one of the Compact fluorescent desk lamps, plant some java moss and small stem plants (say Ludwegia repens) and put some floaters on top (Salvinia would be good) and you have enough space for a pair or trio of pygmy gouramis, some of the smaller killifish (say Aphyosemion striatum or Epiplatys annulatus) or a minimal school of microrasboaras (Bororas maculatus or brigettae), or least killies (Heterandria formosa - smallest livebearer, sixth smallest vertebrate, that's probably your best bet, but you'd have to put some seashells or crushed coral in there to harden the water for them.)

3 gallons is really to small a tank for anything you'll commonly run across, even bettas are better in a 5.5 or 10.

Your very best bet for a 3 gallon tank is to get red cherry shrimp.

You didn't happen to get this tank through PVAS, did you?

CataclysmKitten 05-16-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tophat665 (Post 675564)
3 gallons is really to small a tank for anything you'll commonly run across, even bettas are better in a 5.5 or 10.

Your very best bet for a 3 gallon tank is to get red cherry shrimp.

You didn't happen to get this tank through PVAS, did you?

Thanks for your response. I now have four Glo-s. The ones from Petco are diseased. I swear, I need a good source to buy these guys from. I used to breed bettas---and had them live a long while. and raise bettas from the pet store, but they kept coming with non visable diseases, and the one, hope, broke apart. And it wasn't fin rot. He was eating, swimming fast, following my finger, everything.

I don't know. *sigh* :-(

Byron 05-22-2011 12:13 PM

You really do need a much larger tank for any of the characins. The water quality will be a continual problem with so many fish in a 3g, not to mention the fish will be overcrowded physically and under severe stress.

Please have a read of the information in our profiles of these fish. Neon Tetra and Glowlight Tetra are both included, you can click on the shaded names to see their respective profiles.

Byron.


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