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fish_4_all 07-25-2007 12:22 PM

Me second Mystery Snail clutch!
I got my second clutch ever today! I woke up this morning and had to get my step daughter to the ariport but i checked just to see and the snail had layed a very small practice clutch or so I thought. So I turned thelight back off and we went on our 6 hours rounds trip at 3:00 in the morning.

When we got back my female had actually finished a nice sized clutch and hopefully this one will be fertile as her first one did not hatch. I haven't gotten pics yet because it was layed way back in the tank and I haven't moved it to my new fangled foam/plastic canvas hatchery that I am going to try. Will getpictures tomorrow after I have the nerve to move it. I would leave it but it is on the glass and my pond snails might decide to eat it or the female may knock it in the water.

The only thing I can think of that has helped me get this second clutch after a month since the first one was I started feeding green beans again.

Falina 07-25-2007 04:00 PM

Congratuulations and I look forward to the photos!

Interesting information about the green beans!

Trishfish 07-25-2007 09:23 PM

Once they get going, you'll have more clutches than you know what to do with! Green beans or not!! :lol: Good luck with this one.

Falina 07-26-2007 03:25 PM

If you're willing to ship, I'd love some, LOL.

(No harm in chancing your luck eh?)

fish_4_all 07-26-2007 08:57 PM

Will have to check and see what the laws are on shipping clutches here in WA. I have not been able to find anything yet on what it is. Make sure you know what the laws are on it in your area.

I have seen a site that ships clutches but I don't now if it is with special permit or what but they did say they can ship them to me in WA.

As far as I could find the only one that is illegal is the true Apple Snail, Canas I think because they can live so long out of water and actually move over land for long distances.

Trishfish 07-26-2007 09:12 PM

It is legal to ship pomacea bridgesii within your own state only. You can ship elsewhere if you apply for permits. It is not legal to ship clutches. Canas are banned because they reproduce quickly and eat up everything they can find.

fish_4_all 07-26-2007 11:50 PM

Well here is my picture of the second one. I finally got something that I liked for a hatchery and made it so I could remove the clutch to safety. I hope this one hatches and it looks to be different from the other one but I can't really put my finger on it.

Here is the picture of them side by side

I don't know what I am looking at but to me the first and second one look completely different. The first one (on the left) looks like a hard boiled egg where the second one (on the right) looks like what I would expect from a gelatenous egg. Any ideas why they are so different or if the second one could be viable and the first one wasn't, except for the first one didn't hatch?

Falina 07-27-2007 04:50 PM

I'm afraid I can't help you at all as I've never had a snail lay eggs.

I just wanted to say however that your snail (presumably mummy snail?) is really beautiful! Maybe in America that is common but over here I have never seen one that sort of shimmery pearly colour - really unusual and pretty!

Trishfish 07-28-2007 10:36 AM

To me, the difference you're seeing is just in how fresh (new) the eggs are. They almost look like little white styrofoam balls stuck together when they're first layed, then dry to a pinkish shade, to a whitish almost moldy look before they hatch. The eggs should look the same at first whether they're fertile or not. Conditions just may not have been ideal the first time around.

In this pic, you can see the clutch that's ready to hatch. It looks kind of moldy with dark purple babies inside.

fish_4_all 07-28-2007 12:35 PM

I want your clutches! Mine look so small and scraggly compared to yours!

You could well be right. The first clutch had the picture taken within 20 minutes of her finishing laying the clutch. The second one was well over 24 hours if not 36 hours. I didn't really notice the difference but the second clutch was way back in the back of the tank where the first was right up front so it could well have been nothing more than a perception thing.

I do have another question about them. How old do they need to be and how big before I can expect to possibly get clutches from them?

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