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Mrbirfday 05-11-2011 08:45 AM

Help! Livestock dying and cloudy water
 
so I was working yesterday while my girlfriend was babysitting, little kid put like a handful of food in my 1 month old reef aquarium I did a 50% water change and got as much of the food off the gravel as possible, I put new water in the tank was immediately cloudy and continued to do so. Woke up today and live stock is dead or dying.
I have a 55gal ,fluval 205 filter some live and dry rock in the tank had a red and white snapper, arrow crab , still have false percula clown, condy nem, choc chip star fish, green star polyps, what should I do to remedy this and why is this happening? Thanx!

onefish2fish 05-11-2011 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrbirfday (Post 671224)
so I was working yesterday while my girlfriend was babysitting, little kid put like a handful of food in my 1 month old reef aquarium I did a 50% water change and got as much of the food off the gravel as possible, I put new water in the tank was immediately cloudy and continued to do so. Woke up today and live stock is dead or dying.
I have a 55gal ,fluval 205 filter some live and dry rock in the tank had a red and white snapper, arrow crab , still have false percula clown, condy nem, choc chip star fish, green star polyps, what should I do to remedy this and why is this happening? Thanx!

welcome to the forum mrbirfday.

we have alot to talk about. to start, why gravel and not sand? food and debris gets trapped down in the cracks and is allowed a chance to break down into excess nutrients. the is the same for having the filter on the tank. its doing more harm then good. currently its helping to remove the extra food but within a short time that food ( and whatevers already in that filter ) is given the chance to break down, and spike your tank. i personally would run the fluval empty for flow ( but they make powerheads for that ) or only with carbon ( but they make media reactors for that )
adding dry rock to a tank is another thing enough to cause a spike in parameters unless its adding is such small quantities. personally your better to "cure" the rock in a seperate container/tank with heater and powerhead unless the tank you have it in now is empty of livestock, which its not.
you also have alot of livestock for a 1 month old tank, and it more then likely cant handle it. remember adding slow ( over a period of weeks, if not months.. ) for new tank additions.
anemones shouldnt be added to a tank thats under a year old in my opinion as the tank is more stable and mature. you've also choose a condylactis which can be harmful to your fish/corals including the clown. this is not their native hosting anemone and further more having a clown + a nem doesnt mean they'll be best friends. ive had clowns host corals to powerheads. the chocolate starfish will also eat corals and is not a reef safe specimen. PLEASE, please, research what you wish to buy, before you buy it.
to sum things up, i think your issues are:
the tanks to new to handle bio-load
the gravel and filter are contributing to excess nutrients
dry rock in the tank is contributing to excess nutrients from die off
i do not wish to scare you away but to help you, if you could please post more about the tank.
lighting? flow? amount of live rock? ph, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, alk, cal, mag, and anything else you have tests for. also a picture might be helpful.
thanks, and again welcome to the forum.

Mrbirfday 05-11-2011 09:33 AM

Ph ,alk, nitrites,nitrates,ammonia , are all fine. How would my filter be problematic ? What do u suggest I use for filtration? Also I have a aqueon 900gph powerhead for flow and a 48inch marineland reef capable led light not really too much rock maybe 10 lbs if that... And I know that some of. My livestock is not compatable but I have had no problems thus far and I didn't realize this until after I had gotten them. Also my substrate is crushed coral I got it because I read it helps calcium levels and acts as a buffer, what do u suggest I do to fix my problem? As well my clown does host the powerhead, lol

redchigh 05-11-2011 09:39 AM

Could you post what 'fine' is?

onefish2fish 05-11-2011 10:10 AM

heres a good read on why "filters" are not beneficial on a saltwater tank.
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/w...shwater-31955/

Mrbirfday 05-12-2011 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by onefish2fish (Post 671260)
heres a good read on why "filters" are not beneficial on a saltwater tank.
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/w...shwater-31955/

Now I read the article do u think if I were to utilize sand live rock , and a protien skimmer in conjunction with my existing canister filter purely for chemical filtration would that be a good idea or would work well?
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onefish2fish 05-12-2011 09:14 PM

i would only use the canister filter empty for its flow or with carbon in it, however i have powerheads for flow and media reactors for carbon and phosban. read online reviews before settling on a skimmer. enough live rock ( about 1-2 lbs per gallon estimated ) a quality skimmer, good flow, proper sand depth, pref. a decent size sump and thats all you really need for filtration. additional add ons could be carbon and phosban reactors but nothing that has mesh, or filter materials, even bioballs that will catch debris even slow flowing/dead spot areas in the tank can be an issue because then the live rock can collect debris so enough flow is important.

badxgillen 05-12-2011 10:16 PM

uh oh
 
in the mean while water changes ,new carbon,and more research in to the subject will help you out much...one fish 2 fish has given you the right idea...no nitrate traps either.


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