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SinCrisis 05-07-2011 04:43 PM

Growing HC emersed
 
Hey All,

I just wanted to share an experience with everyone. A couple of days ago, my HC arrived and I planted it im a emersed setup. This is the way to go for planting HC, After de-potting, I just pushed the clump softly into the sand and already today I am seeing new growth. This is by far the easiest way to plant this plant without having to worry about the plant floating or getting dislodged by currents. Just wanted to share that advice with yall, if you want this plant to grow a lawn, give the dry-start method a try, it really works well.

-Sin

aunt kymmie 05-07-2011 04:47 PM

Can we get a picture?? I'd love to see it!

SinCrisis 05-07-2011 06:21 PM

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Thats what it looked like now. When i first planted, ti was a smooth top, like there werent any little stems coming up but in this picture, it was a uniform bump, but now you can see that at some points, the plants have already started to grow.

Aqua Jon 05-10-2011 01:15 AM

amazing ! nice job sin and thanks for sharing, wish i knew this a few months ago. will like to give this a try when I next attempt it. Looking forward to see the progress along the way on this tank. You're probably going to cause me to buy another tank :-P

redchigh 05-10-2011 10:44 AM

I'm going to wait until you fill the tank up to do it myself..

I've heard the plants can melt when suddenly deprived of CO2.. Please do keep me updated.

SinCrisis 05-10-2011 12:17 PM

Thats the fear im dealing with right now, the HC is definitely growing well, they're all growing towards the light, probably cuz of the design of the edge, but anyway, they're def growing, will try and add a picture later today or tomorrow. Since HC is one of those plants that loves excel as much as CO2, im misting the plants with a mixture of excel and flourish comp. Im hoping that it will grow adapted to excel and keep dosing excel after filling to keep the carbon levels up. Once i have a satisfactory lawn, im going to taper off on the excel and hope that the co2 from the decomposing soil and fish will keep it going. I have a couple of extra pots of HC in a tray growing emersed in case it fails so i can immediately restart. One thing im worried about is that the HC is growing more upwards than spreading out, i hope thats just an initial thing. In moderate light setups, i hear that hc sometimes only grows upwards. If thats the case this project is gonna have to turn into a DIY project with new lights or something...

redchigh 05-10-2011 12:35 PM

You'll still need to use the excel for a couple weeks after filling.. I've even heard that you need to overdose the CO2 (or excel) for up to a month, before you taper it off slowly... Soil substrates produce CO2, but I wouldn't count on it satisfying all the needs in the very beginning.

Misting with excel is an idea... Might try that.... You can also use miracle grow and such in the DSM... The ammonium will be gone by the time you taper off the CO2.

I think trimming it will encourage runners...

SinCrisis 05-10-2011 12:44 PM

Yea, need to find some curved scissors though, normal scissors will destroy the bunch rather than help it. I dont plant to be able to reduce excel until at least 6 weeks after filling.


On a unrelated note, I have lots of snails and worms everywhere in the tank to help break down the soil. Super wierd, actually looked under the tank yesterday, love how you can get under the tank in the edge, there were red wroms, white worms <looked like thin maggots, tons of cyclops, ramshorn snails, pond snails, MTS, something that flies, etc in the tank. Not so sure i even need to get fish anymore... its a thriving ecosystem on its own. Guess this is one of the results of emersed setups, the stagnant lower water levels will promote all kinds of critters, im now a bit apprehensive about putting my hand in there, everything needs to be done with forceps and scissors now. Even rock arrangements, which is really difficult without hands...

redchigh 05-10-2011 01:27 PM

I'm sure there's nothing harmful in there...

Worms you say? It'll be messy when they drown. :sick:

The flying bugs are probably fungus gnats... They'll feed on the sap your plants produce... Might not want to drag out the dry period too long unless you can control them.

SinCrisis 05-10-2011 02:15 PM

well part of the tank is submerged, the worms are all underwater worms. as for the flying things, I see one once in a while. I usually mist when i see them and they dont show up for a few days, i think it catches their wings and they drown. My snails eat em then probably.

One other thing im worried about is the pond snails and the ramshorns, not sure what their population is right now, but im afraid they may start eating my plants if they get too hungry, not really sure when to toss them food, been doing it once every couple of days but i still worry about it. Might drop in a 3rd HC pot and speed up the lawning...


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