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DKRST 04-29-2011 07:53 PM

Camallanus infection, need advice
 
My angels are infected with Camallanus. I have started treating with an antiparasitic food containing Levamisole. Any other recommendations?

Thanks in advance!

zof 04-29-2011 08:05 PM

Well with my infection I eventually resorted to canine dewormer, it got rid of the Camallanus but also took out a good portion of my stock but I wasn't careful in the final stage . Good luck it might take a while to treat and find something that works for you.

aunt kymmie 04-29-2011 08:09 PM

I'm sorry to hear about this. I had to treat for worms (not Callallanus worms) and I used straight up Levamisole (you wrote up the dosage calculator for me!) and it worked great. Not sure if a medicated food would be as effective as treating the entire water column. I don't know the life cycle of the Camallanus worm. Did you read where feeding kaced medicated food would work?
Levamisole is hard to come by and if you decide you need a bottle let me know, as I can get it for you.

PS. What were the symptoms? I wouldn't even know what to look for.

DKRST 04-29-2011 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by aunt kymmie (Post 661840)
I'm sorry to hear about this. I had to treat for worms (not Callallanus worms) and I used straight up Levamisole (you wrote up the dosage calculator for me!) and it worked great. Not sure if a medicated food would be as effective as treating the entire water column. I don't know the life cycle of the Camallanus worm. Did you read where feeding kaced medicated food would work?
Levamisole is hard to come by and if you decide you need a bottle let me know, as I can get it for you.

PM'd you before I saw this - thanks!

aunt kymmie 04-29-2011 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DKRST (Post 661842)
PM'd you before I saw this - thanks!

PM answered! ;-)

DKRST 04-29-2011 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aunt kymmie (Post 661840)
I'm sorry to hear about this. I had to treat for worms (not Callallanus worms) and I used straight up Levamisole (you wrote up the dosage calculator for me!) and it worked great. Not sure if a medicated food would be as effective as treating the entire water column. I don't know the life cycle of the Camallanus worm. Did you read where feeding laced medicated food would work?
Levamisole is hard to come by and if you decide you need a bottle let me know, as I can get it for you.

PS. What were the symptoms? I wouldn't even know what to look for.

Ok, enough PM'ing, back to posting so others can benefit also! Very obvious symptom was worms extending out the anal opening/vent. Yeech! I missed the early signs (mucous stools). There was not a picture under the "FW Diseases" post, but the description was spot-on and I googled a picture to confirm. I'll probably lose one angel, it stopped eating already and looks stressed. It also has the most obvious worms. I'm hoping I can save the other four. Corys don't seem afflicted. Strange thing is, the fish have been in the tank for over 2 months with no previous signs of illness. I haven't added any fish either.

Kymmie, a question on your treatment. Did you have to vacuum the tank substrate? If so, how many times did you dose and repeat the vacuum cycle? I haven't read up on the Camallanus life cycle yet. That's next on my list. I'm adding the Levamasole to my QT routine from now on.

DKRST 04-29-2011 10:50 PM

Ok, here is the recommended treatment routine:
Medication options for Camallanus worms in fish are fenbendazole, levamisole, and praziquantel. The levamisole paralyze the worms and they are pushed out of the gut into the aquarium (pink or white worms detach and drop from the anus). Within 24 hours of medicating, substrate must be thoroughly vacuumed to remove the worms. Three treatments are required, each one week apart.

Antihelminthic (worm) medications are toxic to snails and shrimps so these animals should be removed before use. This parasitic infection is apparently pretty common and does not always show obvious signs.

Once the meds arrive, I guess I'll need to go buy a good gravel vac!

aunt kymmie 04-29-2011 11:48 PM

I treated two two times, a week apart, and yes, I vacuumed every single inch of my substrate. I was treating for a different worm than you and my treatment protocol was one dose less. I didn't combine meds, only used the Levamisole, as that was what I was told to do. This was my discus tank and I wasn't messing around or taking chances. As much as I sometimes feel like throwing the entire medicine cabinet at them sometimes, I restrain myself from doing so.

I hope you don't lose your angel, maybe she can hang on until the meds arrive. I'd think the meds should arrive by Monday, providing the package doesn't hit ungodly weather (fingers crossed) on the way. All those storms are crazy, I'm glad I don't live on that side of our country.

DKRST 04-30-2011 08:29 PM

Kymmie - Thanks very much for going to the trouble to get the med mailed today, I know it took extra effort!

I did have a question about your substrate vacuuming. Was your Discus tank planted? If so, how did you work around your plants? I have a bunch of well-rooted swords and I'd really prefer to not uproot them unnecessarily. If you take a look at my tank, you'll see what I'm working with. Wouldn't the parasite get trapped in the vegetation as well as the substrate?

I just looked at your discus tank (very beautiful tank). How did you work around the plants?

aunt kymmie 04-30-2011 10:44 PM

For you, it was no effort! My Discus tank is planted and the way I vacuumed the plants (no way was I uprooting them). I used a turkey baster to shoot water at the plants, it really gets things loose. I could break loose anything "stuck" among the leaves with this method.
I have sand substrate so any debris just sits on top, so vacuuming the sand (hovering above it) pretty much picks up everything.

I just looked at your tank. VERY nice. Were it me I'd vacuum just over the top of the substrate, and then after I did the entire surface I'd do the standard "shove" the gravel vac into the substrate.


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