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AbbeysDad 04-20-2011 09:10 PM

Ick outbreak
 
60g tank - 3 weeks in.

One black molly with unmistakable white spots and some shimmering and closed fins. No loss in appetite at this point.

Tank mates, 2 other black mollies, 4 platys, 6 neon tetras, 1 elusive baby snail that came with a bunch of cut plants I think.

I think the neon tetras preclude the salt / temperature treatment.
On hand I have Ick Clear (Tank Buddies) which is a victoria green and acriflavine BUT I have not treated yet pending advice.

I'm thinking of increasing temperature from 77-78 to 80F, removing filter cartridge to eliminate the slight carbon, and 1/2 dosing with 3 pre-dissolved tablets (standard dose is 1 tablet per 10 gallons.

Thoughts?

AbbeysDad 04-21-2011 08:21 AM

I increased the temperature setting just a little last night and this morning the temp was about 78.5.
Last night I was convinced the Molly had ick, but this morning she looks a bit better and all the other fish seem very healthy.
I held off on any meds and will stop at a LFS after work to see what they have in medicines for ick. I'll need more than I have if treatment will be up to 10 days.
I don't want to treat the tank unless I really need to because I worry that the acriflavine will negatively affect the bio-cycle.

TwinDad 04-21-2011 01:49 PM

Still have the white spots?

Your should post pictures. I'm still new to this, but some people have posted that not all white spots are cih, so I think a photo might help out those that are in the know.

Eshnon 04-21-2011 11:27 PM

My imput
 
Alright.. so I've read up on Ick and a few more sickness before I got a fish tank.. and Ick was one that was engraved into my mind..
First, depending on temp, the process for Ick can be slowed down, or quickened.. I would go with speeding it up and dropping the tablets into the water. Raising the Temp will increase the speed, but try not to kill your fish ;) Raising the temp will provide a shorter time for the parasites to leave the fish body, and when vulnerable, the tablets will kill them off. Raising the temp will also force all the other fish that are sick with Ick to "purge" the parasites into the water... Not at the sametime, but over the course of a week or two. Ick sucks.. and causes bloody streaks at the later stages.. keep an eye out for it.. As you probably see now.. are white spots.. This is the early stage for when the parasite enters through the skin, it causes an irritation.. a white spot. After a week or so, the parasite leaves and drops to the bottom of the tank where it multiplies. After multiplying, all the baby parasites then feed on your tank population.. resulting in a full Ick breakout.
-Remove Carbon filtering
-Increases Temp
-Cut medication dosage in half for catfish and other scaleless fish.
-Carry out with water changes BETWEEN treatments.

Hope this helps. :)

Mikaila31 04-22-2011 12:11 AM

I would suggest a copper based med. Coppersafe or aquari-sol is what I always use to treat ich. Continue treatment till all signs disappear. Then you need to continue treatment for another week at least. You can either use the med full strength or half for this part IMO. Continuing treatment is the most important part with treating ich. Otherwise you will find it keeps coming back. Just because it appears to be gone does not mean it really is.

AbbeysDad 04-22-2011 07:55 AM

Thanks folks.
Well, it started with a few white spots on the one Molly looking like ick, but now I see signs on the other female Molly and it's looking more like a white fungus than spots of ick. I'm thinking that the male has been pestering the two females and his 'attentions' may have caused minor problems with the slime coat and a fungus has resulted.
I am setting up a small 5g hospital tank and will move the two Mollies there to treat.

AbbeysDad 04-22-2011 10:04 AM

Okay, the 5g tank is setup and the two female mollies have been moved in.
I added 1/2 tablet of Fungus Clear (Tank Buddies) (Nitrofurazone, Furazolidone, Potassium Dichromate)
"Warning: This product contains a chemical known to the state of California to cause cancer."
Fortunately, I live in New York!
I thought about adding salt either instead or in addition, but decided to just add the medicine.
Will be keeping a watchful eye.

AbbeysDad 04-22-2011 01:37 PM

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Okay, the 5g tank is setup and the two female mollies have been moved in.
I added 1/2 tablet of Fungus Clear (Tank Buddies) (Nitrofurazone, Furazolidone, Potassium Dichromate)
"Warning: This product contains a chemical known to the state of California to cause cancer."
Fortunately, I live in New York!
I thought about adding salt either instead or in addition, but decided to just add the medicine.
Will be keeping a watchful eye.

Abbey made a sign :-)

AbbeysDad 04-23-2011 09:49 AM

I happy to report that both Mollies look MUCH better today with little/no white spots/areas!
I'll leave them in the hospital tank another couple of days to be sure, but right now it looks really good.

On the down side, with the female Mollies gone, the male molly has been pestering the Platys and they are hiding out a lot. :cry:

aunt kymmie 04-23-2011 12:42 PM

Glad to hear they are doing better. I *love* Abbey's sign!!


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