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smellslikefish 09-30-2006 05:13 PM

ick!!!!
 
hey guys I am kinda new and I was told toget a ccle startedwith some feeder goldfish,in doing that i've had them for liike a week.andright now i have a dozen feeder goldfish in a 30galtank along w/2 plecos. the water iskinda murky and today I was looking at the goldfish and a few of them have a few small white dots on their tails.i looked it upand found out it is a parasite called ick. iknowthey selltablets buti figuredi'd ask the experts(you guys) and findout what to do?? please help

Oceane 09-30-2006 11:46 PM

It would be better and quicker to do a fishless cycle with old filter media. It goes a lot quicker. using cycle fish will take 32 days and you will lose many and also get more diseases. Remove the carbon from your filter. Add a teaspoon of seaspoon of coarse sea salt to your tank and then add the white spot remedy following the dosage on the bottle. Treatment needs to be repeated until the fish are cured. That is if they survive the levels of ammonia and nitrites found in an uncycled tank.

girlofgod 10-03-2006 12:25 PM

first of all...12 goldfish sounds like wayy too many for your tank. they are very messy fish..you would be better off cycling with some danios. anyways...i would check your stats and do several small water changes over the course of a couple of days. are you running activated carbon in your filter? if not, then i would suggest getting some cuz it helps clear up cloudiness. good luck

bri

Tracy 10-06-2006 01:55 AM

Usually I would say add aquarium salt and raise the heat...........but goldfish don't like heat :(

starcollector 10-06-2006 01:16 PM

I too have a bad outbreak of ich in my tank. It doesn't help that I'm also having problems with getting my nitrites down. I've been treating for 6 days now with QuickCure, aquarium salt, and increased temps. The ich appears even worse than it did last week, and seems to be increasing in both fish it's on and number of spots. Can I expect a cure - just have to be patient? The bottle says cures in 2 days, but I did read that it's best to treat for 14 days. So far, almost a week and getting worse! Eeeks.

Nick 10-06-2006 05:46 PM

a dozen goldfish is not the way to cycle a tank. And plus that is WAY to many anways. I bet those poor pleco's are just suffering...but we can help fix that. I would recommend taking the goldfish back ASAP and along with the pleco's. Get like 3 or 4 zebra danios, they are very hardy fish and will do the cycle process for you. That's if your goign to go with fish. Pleco's need good water quality and thats why I would recommend taking them back. Do you have a test kit? To test for Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, pH, kh or gh. If not I would recommend the Master Test Kit, it includes all those and I've had lots of success with that test kit. Just to be simple when its over your results should be Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, and Nitrate under 40. Hope to help you more
Nick

Lupin 10-06-2006 08:49 PM

Not with the ich stuck on goldfish, Nick.:blink: If you just return them, then the original owner is to blame for several outbreaks in other tanks if ever the goldfish are placed in other tanks.

Plecs and a dozen goldfish will never fit in the 30 gallons. You have to add 4x the size of that tank.:blink: Apart from that, both are heavy pooing machines. They produce a lot of wastes meaning your ammonia is likely to be at a dangerous level if your tank hasn't cycled. This alone spells several water changes at that.
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Originally Posted by starcollector
I too have a bad outbreak of ich in my tank. It doesn't help that I'm also having problems with getting my nitrites down. I've been treating for 6 days now with QuickCure, aquarium salt, and increased temps. The ich appears even worse than it did last week, and seems to be increasing in both fish it's on and number of spots. Can I expect a cure - just have to be patient? The bottle says cures in 2 days, but I did read that it's best to treat for 14 days. So far, almost a week and getting worse! Eeeks.

Starcollector, for this, I'd rather treat your fish with salt combined with high temps. Pls see to it that your fish can tolerate high temps. With goldfish, you are advised not to increase the temp.
High temp+goldfish=death
I'd just continue treating them with salt until all the parasites are destroyed. Meds will do as long as they don't harm the biological filtration.
On the side note, I wouldn't try to believe everything the bottle says. It will not cure in 2 days. That will depend.

Pls do not use activated carbon when you are treating the fish with meds. This will render the meds ineffective.
Use carbon only when you try to remove the meds.

Lupin 10-06-2006 08:50 PM

Topic moved.

This is getting to be a serious situation.:wink2:

Tracy 10-21-2006 12:38 PM

My 46 gallon tank now has ich, and I'm quite sure it came from petsmart when I acquired the 4 small silver dollars and a second clown loach. I don't know my water stats but the tank has cylced (was an upgrade from 25 gallons to 46 gallons at the end of July).

Questions: Should I treat with salt/heat, or meds, or a combination of both? The temperature is normally 78 degrees F; how high can I turn it up and how will my fish tolerate it? Besides the silver dollars and clown loaches, I have 4 gouramis, a sclarae angel, common plec and one cory cat. Are there any of them that won't like the salt? This is very disappointing :( About 18 months ago I lost a big pleco to disease after adding neon tetras, and I dont want this to happen again.

crazie.eddie 10-21-2006 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starcollector
I too have a bad outbreak of ich in my tank. It doesn't help that I'm also having problems with getting my nitrites down. I've been treating for 6 days now with QuickCure, aquarium salt, and increased temps. The ich appears even worse than it did last week, and seems to be increasing in both fish it's on and number of spots. Can I expect a cure - just have to be patient? The bottle says cures in 2 days, but I did read that it's best to treat for 14 days. So far, almost a week and getting worse! Eeeks.

Follow the directions and continue the treatment.


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