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Neutron 04-06-2011 06:19 PM

New tank, big mistakes
 
I set up a 10 gallon aquarium last week. I have a heater, filter and 3 live plants in it and it is all running smoothly.
Yesterday I got 3 red wag platies and added some Nutrafin Cycle at the same time as I added the fish, as per the directions.
Today I went back to the petstore and the girl working assured me that adding more fish wouldn't be a problem. So I got 2 Panda Cories. When I put them in the tank I added more Nutrafin Cycle.
Now I have just begun researching everything, which I should have done before buying the aquarium. Everything seemed so simple according to the people in the pet store AND the people in the aquarium store!
I read all about the cycling process and realized I messed up everything. So I went and got a full test kit. I tested for Ammonia, nitrites and nitrates and all were at 0.
My question now is, will my tank cycle with all these fish? Will they survive?

InvertPlanet 04-06-2011 06:27 PM

the tank will cycle, will they survive is a totally different matter.

Water changes and tests are your best friend. If you can you should try to get some used (wet) filter media from the store or a friend.

Most bottled cycle products are just junk. The only good ones you should keep in mind are the ones that help reduce ammonia (Tetra "Safe Start" and seachem's "Prime").

Neutron 04-06-2011 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by InvertPlanet (Post 641062)
the tank will cycle, will they survive is a totally different matter.

Water changes and tests are your best friend. If you can you should try to get some used (wet) filter media from the store or a friend.

Most bottled cycle products are just junk. The only good ones you should keep in mind are the ones that help reduce ammonia (Tetra "Safe Start" and seachem's "Prime").

I have Prime! I use it for water conditioner. Is there a way to use it to reduce ammonia while cycling the tank? Will the bacteria still have some ammonia to consume to build up if I do use it?

InvertPlanet 04-06-2011 07:05 PM

the tank will cycle but ammonia (as you know is deadly. You will see it bump up and down in your tests. Try not to let it get above .5 or even better .25

Used filter media or substrate will help jump start the process.

Neutron 04-06-2011 07:28 PM

Will a store give filter media or gravel? I don't know if I would trust a pet store, and I don't know where else I could get some.

SeaHorse 04-06-2011 07:44 PM

Neutron wow I didn't realize you live in Barrie!! My daughter lives in Barrie. I would bring you some but I won't be up there till Easter weekend. What about Big Al's in Barrie?

Neutron 04-06-2011 07:50 PM

I just realized I could change where I lived. I;ve noticed a lot of people on this forum are from Ontario!

I should go ask them at Big Al's. I want to buy a Java Fern so maybe I will go tomorrow. Would a handful of gravel work in a 10 gal?

SeaHorse 04-06-2011 08:04 PM

I was there last Saturday. they had tons of plants available for purchase. A handful of gravel sure wouldn't hurt. And there are products/additives that help grow the good bacteria. Not everyone in here likes them but I use them. Personal choice.
Go see what they have to say. good luck.

Neutron 04-06-2011 08:12 PM

Yeah I bought some moss last week from there for my betta tanks. I also bought a bacopa plant from there a few days ago and its in my 10 gallon.
I added Nutrafin cycle to the tank, is that a good product for the bacteria to start growing?

whitecloud34 04-06-2011 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Neutron (Post 641167)
Yeah I bought some moss last week from there for my betta tanks. I also bought a bacopa plant from there a few days ago and its in my 10 gallon.
I added Nutrafin cycle to the tank, is that a good product for the bacteria to start growing?


I think it depends on how long it's been sitting on the shelf. I used Nutrafin cycle for my tank and it did absolutely nothing. It came with the tank though in a kit so it might have been sitting around for a long time and the bacteria might have died. Some people say it works and some don't. For me personally it did not work :-? It was really frustrating because I don't have any friends with fish tanks so I had no way of seeding my tank with used media and gravel and such. I went with the fish-in cycle after the fishless cycle was a fail lol. 4 weeks later and I am just getting a nitrite reading. Almost there! I use Prime as a water conditioner and ammonia detoxifier (because we have ammonia in our tap water) And it works really well and has kept my fish alive during the cycling process. Prime does not interfere with cycling. It converts toxic ammonia into non-toxic ammonium and the bacteria still feed off of it. It is really a great product.


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