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Boredomb 03-24-2011 05:55 PM

question about canister filter?
 
I have a Eheim 2213. With the way the filter is setup when you get it is okay to use it is for a planted tank? It comes with a basket that has media ( substrate pro ) fine filter pad course filter pad plus I think a carbon pad?

Boredomb 03-24-2011 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Boredomb (Post 628021)
I have a Eheim 2213. With the way the filter is setup when you get it is okay to use it is for a planted tank? It comes with a basket that has media ( substrate pro ) fine filter pad course filter pad plus I think a carbon pad?

Okay after reading some more Carbon pads and media is bad. So How did I need to setup this filter to make it work right? Just add more pads?

DKRST 03-24-2011 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Boredomb (Post 628021)
I have a Eheim 2213. With the way the filter is setup when you get it is okay to use it is for a planted tank? It comes with a basket that has media ( substrate pro ) fine filter pad course filter pad plus I think a carbon pad?

I think the answer is, it depends. I didn't use the carbon pad (2215), I set it up with everything else and added an additional blue pad to my canister. If you use the carbon pad when initially setting up the tank, I don't think it's a major problem if you remove it as specified. It will absorb some of the stuff you want in the tank for plants. I added a pre-filter that draws from the tank bottom. With plants, and their related debris, you'll probably want to set up some type of pre-filter for the intake or you'll be cleaning the canister more often.

Boredomb 03-24-2011 06:43 PM

Okay Soo u kept the media in the filter then? And what is a pre-filter?
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Boredomb 03-24-2011 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Boredomb (Post 628053)
Okay Soo u kept the media in the filter then? And what is a pre-filter?
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Okay sorry dumb question I found a pre-filter for it
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DKRST 03-24-2011 08:07 PM

If you want to max out plant growth, some say the "media" is bad in canisters, you should use the blue sponges instead. I don't buy it, the sponges have a lot of surface area also and they will act as biological media also. The problem is, if you lower your filtration, you have to lower the number of fish the tank has. What's the priority - fish or plants? Work from there for priorities. You can have plants and fish, and if the tank is not optimized for plants, plants will still grow (if basic needs are met), just a little less rapidly. Lots of info in the forum's "stickies". I highly recommend them! Lots of experts here (not including myself in the list of experts, I'm still learning!).

Boredomb 03-24-2011 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DKRST (Post 628168)
If you want to max out plant growth, some say the "media" is bad in canisters, you should use the blue sponges instead. I don't buy it, the sponges have a lot of surface area also and they will act as biological media also. The problem is, if you lower your filtration, you have to lower the number of fish the tank has. What's the priority - fish or plants? Work from there for priorities. You can have plants and fish, and if the tank is not optimized for plants, plants will still grow (if basic needs are met), just a little less rapidly. Lots of info in the forum's "stickies". I highly recommend them! Lots of experts here (not including myself in the list of experts, I'm still learning!).

okay thanks for the info!

Mikaila31 03-24-2011 08:38 PM

Media is anything that goes in the filter and this includes sponges. I don't recommened any carbon or other chemical based medias. If you have any empty space in the filter add floss or any generic pads/sponges that are cheap. I don't quite see the need for a prefilter either. I've never used them before. It won't hurt to use one, but it adds more stuff that you see in the tank.

Boredomb 03-24-2011 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikaila31 (Post 628205)
Media is anything that goes in the filter and this includes sponges. I don't recommened any carbon or other chemical based medias. If you have any empty space in the filter add floss or any generic pads/sponges that are cheap. I don't quite see the need for a prefilter either. I've never used them before. It won't hurt to use one, but it adds more stuff that you see in the tank.

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Boredomb 03-24-2011 10:09 PM

Okay thanks alot was looking for a cheaper way to go and I didn't even know there was such a thing as filter floss will looking into that
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