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thefishes 03-16-2011 01:28 AM

A few cycling and water change questions.
 
Will changing around 50% of the water almost everyday to dilute ammonia mess up the cycling of my tank? Or should i indeed still see a nitrite spike following the ammonia but it just might take longer?.
I'm just curious if doing daily water changes prolongs the ammonia stage of cycling or not?.

Im using the fish in cycle by the way and i have 5 White cloud mountain minnow.
I started with 6 but one was sick straight from the pet store. 4 of the 5 are getting noticeably bigger and healthier. 1 seem's to get pale and stay near the top of the water but will eat with the school and swim with the school when they come to the top but i noticed there seems to be a dominancy kind of thing going on so it might be because of that. I'm not going to replace any until im more then sure my water isn't contaminated because the one fish was sick.

Some info in case it's needed:
27 gallon hexagon (marineland)
tetra ex45 30-40 gallon filter
Gravel
2-100 watt subermisable heater's.

Water info:
Temp. 70-76 degree's depending on room temperature and i only use 1 heater. The other is a backup. Ny weather is up and down this time of year.
ph 6.8-7.0
alkaline 75-80
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 0
Ammonia .25 (never goes above because of the daily water change and i don't overfeed and during water changes i hardly ever suck up excess food. I clean 1 small section of gravel a day and rotate sections.)

thefishes 03-16-2011 02:21 AM

Also forgot to add that i use Aquasafe everyday for every water change.

1077 03-16-2011 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefishes (Post 619695)
Will changing around 50% of the water almost everyday to dilute ammonia mess up the cycling of my tank? Or should i indeed still see a nitrite spike following the ammonia but it just might take longer?.
I'm just curious if doing daily water changes prolongs the ammonia stage of cycling or not?.

Im using the fish in cycle by the way and i have 5 White cloud mountain minnow.
I started with 6 but one was sick straight from the pet store. 4 of the 5 are getting noticeably bigger and healthier. 1 seem's to get pale and stay near the top of the water but will eat with the school and swim with the school when they come to the top but i noticed there seems to be a dominancy kind of thing going on so it might be because of that. I'm not going to replace any until im more then sure my water isn't contaminated because the one fish was sick.

Some info in case it's needed:
27 gallon hexagon (marineland)
tetra ex45 30-40 gallon filter
Gravel
2-100 watt subermisable heater's.

Water info:
Temp. 70-76 degree's depending on room temperature and i only use 1 heater. The other is a backup. Ny weather is up and down this time of year.
ph 6.8-7.0
alkaline 75-80
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 0
Ammonia .25 (never goes above because of the daily water change and i don't overfeed and during water changes i hardly ever suck up excess food. I clean 1 small section of gravel a day and rotate sections.)


With fish in the tank, You must change however much water you must to keep ammonia levels low (.25 or threabouts).
Water changes may slow the cycling but fishes health must also be considered.
If you are still using test strips for testing ,I would be suspect of any/all readings.











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thefishes 03-16-2011 03:28 AM

Thanks for the confirmation on the water changing slowing my cycle. I do it for the fishes health like you said. I am considering switching to Seachem Prime for the ammonia control and also considering using Tetra Safestart or Seachem Stability to help the fishes with the cycle.

Yeah unfortunately im still using strip's not because i want to, It is because the 2 local pet store's don't carry the master test kit's. I ordered one online and it won't be here until the end of the week or next week sadly. I noticed the ammonia test strip will sometimes appear as 3 different color's making it hard to get a reading but it mostly looks 0- .25. The other test strip i use for ph,alkaline,nitrite,nitrate etc show's exact coloring so it is easy to read even though im hearing more and more that strips are misleading.

1077 03-16-2011 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefishes (Post 619720)
Thanks for the confirmation on the water changing slowing my cycle. I do it for the fishes health like you said. I am considering switching to Seachem Prime for the ammonia control and also considering using Tetra Safestart or Seachem Stability to help the fishes with the cycle.

Yeah unfortunately im still using strip's not because i want to, It is because the 2 local pet store's don't carry the master test kit's. I ordered one online and it won't be here until the end of the week or next week sadly. I noticed the ammonia test strip will sometimes appear as 3 different color's making it hard to get a reading but it mostly looks 0- .25. The other test strip i use for ph,alkaline,nitrite,nitrate etc show's exact coloring so it is easy to read even though im hearing more and more that strips are misleading.


I see, I'd just keep changing water as you have been, careful feeding,untl I got my Liquid test kit which may indicate that numerous water changes aren't needed.
Prime is a good choice to use at each water change. takes way less than most other conditioner's to achieve the same result's. Is also cheaper in the long run, (last's longer).


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