- - Fin Rot?
|MelKurtonic ||03-14-2011 11:07 AM |
white goldfish being treated for ich... fins clamped not eating fins look like he was attacked by a betta no redness no distress amonia levels were at 1 (spikes up to 1 once a day do water changes 50-75% accordingly) but changed water nitrates and nitrites at 0 really like this fish don't want him to die what is the quickest way to cure him? should I keep using quick cure or does he need a new medication? Quick cure says it cures fungal and protozoan diseases but if that was the case then the tail rot would be due to the amonia spikes? If its the amonia spikes then I just need to change the water more frequently? just woke up today to see this he was fine yesterday swiming and eating happily nothing was wrong with his fins.... this morning I wake up his fins are slightly frayed and there may or may not be white at the base of the fray I'm not 100% sure I look at it and its there then I look at it and second guess it doesn't look like any of the pictures I looked up. Fins have small frays at the ends if you look at it from a distance it looks like a bite has been taken out the tops of the two tail fins. the bottom of the tail fins are light white color and very thin
|MelKurtonic ||03-14-2011 11:52 AM |
I think that since I did a 75% water change I'm going to put the carbon filter back in and start salt treatments tomorrow... from research it seems like it's the best bet to nip this in the butt
|HMlairy ||03-14-2011 12:29 PM |
I'm not master at fin rot but i think that it is generally a bacterial disease, so that fungi remover won't do much. To be honest, i have stop fin rot in an early case of it with just 30% water changes daily effectively on my black moor. But for a more severe case salts would be a good idea
|MelKurtonic ||03-14-2011 03:29 PM |
I don't know how bad it is but he's hiding in the corner all day got him to eat but went out and got melafix just incase
|HMlairy ||03-14-2011 04:11 PM |
The main symptons are ruggid and discoloured fins.
And don't use carbon with the medications because otherwise the meds don't work.
But other than that, fin rot is easy to treat with water changes and melafix/salt
|MelKurtonic ||03-14-2011 05:27 PM |
carbon is out... malafix and salt is in the tank and I did 2 water changes today... he's still hiding in the corner but perks up once in a while... I don't know how it hit he was perfectly fine yesterday then today it's like BAM chunks of his fins are missing he's lethargic and hiding behind a decoration in the corner of the tank... my stomach is in knots over it
|HMlairy ||03-15-2011 02:57 AM |
No worries if you have caught it early, there may have been a fish attacking it suddenly for some reason. It should be okay now :)
|Lupin ||03-17-2011 07:58 AM |
If the cause of fin rot is simply mild bacterial infection or poor water quality, no meds are required. Ditch the Melafix and stick to salt only. You'll be find even in an advanced goldfish forum I admin, Melafix are frowned upon. Goldfish and koi require plenty of oxygen. Melafix is not going to help much in this case except minor injuries that are not infected yet.
|MelKurtonic ||03-17-2011 08:55 PM |
I did a water change and now there's just salt in ther 2 tsb per gallon only I'll add more 12 hours from the point where I put the salt in I'm at my whits end I dont know if I'm more frustrated with the fact that every fish that comes in is sick or the fact that my husband won't listen to me about buying fish... this fish came from a dirty tank... i consistently change the water 1-2 times a day because the amonia is spiking from the ich out break I don't think it could be water quality because I obsess over it so I'm assuming it's bacteria or nipping because I had to take out some fake plants today because the one fish is nipping them and he chases the other fish around the tank which is odd... I don't understand why he's doing that... before the white one got sick he was the one chasing the other two around the tank again i'm not 100% sure what's causing it I'm just trying to take precautions
|Amethyst123 ||03-18-2011 03:11 AM |
You said in your original post that he looked like a betta attacked him. I hope that was just a descriptive phrase to explain what he looks like, rather than a possibility, since bettas and goldfish require vastly different water conditions.
I don't know that much about goldfish, but I do know that Melafix works with fin/tail issues with my livebearers and cories. I use it when clean water doesn't seem to be doing enough, even with salt. It is an antibacterial, but is not an antibiotic. Salt is also antibacterial, but not an antibiotic.
Could he have been catching his fins on the plastic plant and tearing chunks out that way? That happens sometimes with bettas and plastic plants. Live or silk would probably be better.
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