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shadetreeme 02-26-2011 09:55 PM

Pulled all the plants in my 125... starting over
 
When I planted my 125... I just bought a bunch af plants and stuck them in the gravel :-)
Some grew, some didn't. The porblem is that the plants that didn't make it ended up laying dead at the base of the plants that did. Add that to the BBA I have been fighting, and I figured it was time to pull stuff, clean, and replant.
So this is where it was before todays project.

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Soo...... time to pull some plants and change some water.
This is what it looked like at the low point.

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These are the "clean" plants.... NO BBA

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/__...E/IMG_0136.JPG

This is what got pitched :cry:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/__...U/IMG_0143.JPG

I sorted everything I had left to see what I had to work with. I ended with this and a bucket of chain swards.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/__...I/IMG_0139.JPG


OK..... 6 ours later..... Filled back up.... replanted.... and dosed.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/__...0/IMG_0147.JPG

Lets see how it it grows in this time. Hopefully I can avoid BBA this time.

Romad 02-26-2011 10:20 PM

Good luck. I hope it works out for you this time.

aunt kymmie 02-26-2011 11:05 PM

I've had to do that a couple of times myself. Sucks, doesn't it?? Here's hoping the BBA stays away, way far away for you this time!!

Inga 02-27-2011 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by aunt kymmie (Post 603356)
I've had to do that a couple of times myself. Sucks, doesn't it?? Here's hoping the BBA stays away, way far away for you this time!!


Alright, I know I am likely being dense but what is BBA? Black Algae? I have some of that on my sword but thought it was only because the sword reaches near the top by the lights. I hope I don't have to pull everything and start over.

Admittedly, your tank looks great now and it might be worth it to start anew, I am just not looking forward to doing that. I hope your tank keeps looking so nice and the plants grow nicely and fill in.

Lupin 02-27-2011 05:07 AM

Black brush algae. The bane of everyone's existence unless you have snails that absolutely love to graze on them.:lol:

ginagv 02-27-2011 10:51 AM

what are the causes for black algae? My MTS won't touch the stuff.

Gina

Lupin 02-27-2011 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ginagv (Post 603752)
what are the causes for black algae? My MTS won't touch the stuff.

Gina


MTS don't even eat algae to me.:-? I've never seen them eat green spot algae, diatoms, blue green algae (not true algae but toxic cyanobacteria), green filamentous algae and black brush algae.

Here's a good article for BBA.8-)

Control of Red Algae in the Freshwater Aquarium

aunt kymmie 02-27-2011 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lupin (Post 603578)
Black brush algae. The bane of everyone's existence unless you have snails that absolutely love to graze on them.:lol:

I'll take BBA over BGA anyday of the week, and twice on Sunday. NOTHING eats BGA but true SAEs will eat BBA. I dropped a handful of MTS into my 10gl hospital tank that was covered in brown diatoms. In less than four days that tank was wiped clean. Lupes, I think you have picky, spoiled MTS! You're feeding them too well, lol.

Lupin 02-27-2011 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aunt kymmie (Post 603836)
I'll take BBA over BGA anyday of the week, and twice on Sunday. NOTHING eats BGA but true SAEs will eat BBA. I dropped a handful of MTS into my 10gl hospital tank that was covered in brown diatoms. In less than four days that tank was wiped clean. Lupes, I think you have picky, spoiled MTS! You're feeding them too well, lol.

That's the luxury of every snail that ends up with me.lol

Byron 02-27-2011 08:30 PM

I have had bouts of about every algae there is at one time or another. Inga, you probably won't have to tear your tank down and start over. But sometimes this is needed. I am planning on doing that this week to my 90g which has got out of hand.

All algae [except diatoms, and to some extent cyanobacteria which is as Lupin said not a true algae] occurs because of excess light. Nothing else. Algae is a plant, and like all plants it needs light and nutrients. But unlike higher plants, algae can use any light, and any nutrient. Higher plants need red and blue to photosynthesize. And they need a balance of 17 nutrients, balanced among themselves and with the light intensity and duration. Provided this is all balanced, plants will out-compete algae [as Neil Frank wrote in that linked article]. Several planted tank authors have written that in a well-planted balanced aquarium, algae is never a problem; it is there, but never to the extent that it becomes problematical.

Rhonda Wilson who runs a website and writes monthly for TFH has said that in her fishroom of 50+ tanks, certain types of algae will appear and be bothersome in some tanks but not any others. She can only assume that there is some biological or chemical makeup in this tank or that tank that provides what that particular species of algae needs to increase. When it gets out of hand, a tear down is usually the best remedy.

I have noticed slight (usually) increases of algae during the summer months when more light is in the fishroom. Even with blinds and drapes, it is still "brighter" and for longer, and I am certain this is behind the algae increases. Reducing the tank lights at such times by even one hour often works to stop the increase. But not in every tank.

Old fluorescent tubes [no longer emitting sufficient intensity] can cause algae to increase. The reason is exactly the same: the light is no longer adequate, and plants slow down photosynthesis accordingly, but the nutrients are still being added so algae takes advantage--it is not fussy about light. This is another reason tubes should be replaced regularly, and long before they "burn out." Many have found that replacing tubes causes a decrease in algae. Not surprising.


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