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Tycoon 06-03-2007 04:45 PM

What to do when ammonia or nitrite spikes occur?
What do you do to bring them back down to 0?

Rue 06-03-2007 05:28 PM

...water changes...

...don't know if you can bring them fully down to 0 if your tank hasn't cycled...

...DON'T clean the media until you have established low nitrate levels...

MattD 06-03-2007 08:27 PM

Tycoon, iirc, you have a Betta bowl and a Betta right? If you don't have a filter, you can't let anything 'cycle'. You should invest in a nano filter then bro. Seriously it costs like under $15.00 and it does the job magnificently. It would really help your Betta out.

Otherwise massive water changes, done properly of course, will do the job to bring your levels down.

Tycoon 06-03-2007 09:06 PM

no no no... im not talking about my betta here... im just asking the question because I plan on buying a 10-20 gl. soon and have a community tank of my own.

No offense to anyone but a betta in a 1 gallon tank is so boring to look at. I might exchange it for some guppies after I finish cycling my future tank. :)

MattD 06-03-2007 09:28 PM

Oh. If you plan on getting a 10/20 gal, keep your Betta! Don't return/exchange him for some guppies. They're very pretty fish and your Betta will love room to spread his fins rather than just get returned to the crappy little cups on a shelf. :( :( :(

Tycoon 06-03-2007 09:59 PM

i know its pretty sad but putting him in a tank filled with fancy guppies just won't work. Guppies are fin nippers and my betta might think of them as another male bettas with their fancy tails and starts shredding them to pieces. Now that would be a disaster.

MattD 06-03-2007 10:17 PM

Ditch the Fancies then! BETTAS!!! THEY'RE BETTA!! :lol: :lol:

Tycoon 06-03-2007 10:25 PM

Stacey 06-04-2007 10:26 PM

Many betta can live with other fish......... :D I have one betta with snails, and one betta with cardinal tetras. Everyone gets along fine. Lots of options, just stay away from long finned fish. :)

mHeinitz57 06-09-2007 11:57 AM

the key to starting any tank is patience! Most people try to stock their tank right off the bat and usually they end up with those spikes of ammonia and nitrite because the bacteria in the tank can't grow fast enough to handle the load. If you are deciding between 10 or 20...go 20. Once you have your 10 set up for awhile you'll wish you went bigger. :-)
Once you set up the new tank, let it sit for a few days to let any saturated gasses dissipate out. Then start with a few strong fish. My personal reccommendation is a type of danio since it is a minnow fish that can withstand quite a bit. If you want something a little more colorful to look at, go with 2-3 gouramis (a relative to the betta). These fish are not extremely dirty and they usually can withstand the hardships of the nitrogen cycle.
If you leave the two fish in there and regularly use a bacterial supplement (Cycle, Stability or BioSpira are best) then you should have a smooth transition through the nitrogen cycle within 4-5 weeks. If you do water changes during that period it takes a little longer but with very few, hardy fish you shouldnt worry about that. Do not add fish till the cycle is done.
Once the cylce is complete, only add 2-3 fish at a time and give it 1-2 weeks before you add more. When you do water changes, only change about 25% and add a bacterial supplement when you do. Also get a good filter that holds bacteria well without you disturbing it. The Penguin Biowheels are awesome for small tanks like that. Just remember that the key thing is to be patient when starting up and stocking a tank. The majority of the problems my customers ever have is usually because they rushed things.

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