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nayrz 02-12-2011 09:59 PM

Crossbreeding Question/Fun ideas
 
First things first, I'm not planning to buy fish to crossbreed and sell any crossed fish to a store (unless a freak occurrence happens and it's gone through several successful generations by chance then heck yes I'm making some money, who wouldn't? lol). The questions are just for my personal knowledge and curious mind, as well as anyone else out there whos mind likes to roam their imagination.

Is complete crossbreeding impossible?
To better explain I'll use some examples.
By complete crossbreeding I mean literally a cross from one thing to another, not cory+cory or pleco+pleco but things like pleco+cory or gupy+cichlid.

AH AH AH!...don't start saying impossible just yet..

For curiosity sake I'm talking serious business (possibly fun fantasy business), like the president of the united states pours all the funds into scientific breeding research to cross something you say is "impossible". Say they take the sperm of a Common Pleco and insert it or fertilize eggs from a molly or a cory.

Is it still impossible?
Even by a mutation or rare once in a trillion year happening, like the pleco just runs over to the cory and mates with it and the corry accepts.
Impossible does mean impossible...mankind DID think the earth was flat for a long time and it was "impossible" that it could be round. So when you say impossible I want you to reallllllly reallllly think about it.

Being negative and saying it's impossible just sucks the fun out of it.
You also have to think, somewhere down the genetic line, whether it be in prehistoric times or not, a fish HAD to cross breed with something today you would say was "impossible" to get such an enormous amount of species on this planet.

So to sum this all up the question will be...

If someone purposely went out into the world to crossbreed a fish..money, laboratories, the person has any means of accomplishing this, can they?
(Just keep in mind before you put your answer...we can grow human ears in/on a rats body so the possibility is probably there to cross a few unlikely fish).

Christople 02-13-2011 01:15 PM

Idon't see a reason not to but it would be odd. I would think to see more success with same family but different species but I bet some would could take a pleco sperm cell and put it with ram eggs and see what hatches

nayrz 02-13-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Christople (Post 589142)
I don't see a reason not to but it would be odd. I would think to see more success with same family but different species but I bet some would could take a pleco sperm cell and put it with ram eggs and see what hatches


I think it would be wonderful, I'm a oddball lover lol.
I like prehistoric looking fish, or the strange ones. Plecos, mostly the common because of its eventual size, are my favorite.

Besides, if someone could make a new breed of fish all on their own, the first X amount of fish sold could bring in some nice money for them to further their hobby.

I think an awesome cross-breed would be a common pleco with a Bala shark, say it keeps the plecos looks except it has the balas shape, and it actively swims around mid-level rather then usually hiding or lower-level. The skin at first would probably be a brownish-grey mix possibly with the balas dark tipped fins. Possibly some would turn out darker. Most likely would be more aggressive then a common pleco.

Then, once that species has been established strictly with its own kind (as in there are males and females from 2 different groups, then they will breed creating a 2nd generation, then a 3rd person will have a new group who makes the 3rd gen with the 2nd, and so on until it's all good.) you'll breed it with a banded rainbow (or jewel rainbow), because of its possible light coloration the offspring should keep the light color because the jewel also has light color, and hopefully for imaginations sake in all this, the offspring will have a very light rainbow-y tint to their scales.

Thus you have created the first Rainbow Bala Shark Pleco
Possibly naming it a Rainbow Pleco, Pleco Shark, Rainbow Pleco-Shark...or something along those lines.

(My own imaginative thought process..since most of us don't have laboratories, would be to have a breeding tank, have a species of fish who lay eggs before or as their being fertilized, it IS possible to get the eggs before fertilization, I just imagine it would involve very good timing lol. Anyways once you have the eggs place them in a breeders net or container, as long as there is lots of water flow from the tank to the spot the eggs are (this is to prevent them from being eaten but also still able to be fertilized) next you'd put in a breeding pair of a different species that breed the same way, the eggs come out then the sperm hits them. That way, the sperm SHOULD also hit these other eggs...the last step is to hope for a miracle :D)

Christemo 02-13-2011 02:18 PM

It could only be between species.

Christople 02-13-2011 07:33 PM

you could disect the fish to get the eggs and sperm but then you lose your fish.

nayrz 02-14-2011 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Christople (Post 589586)
you could disect the fish to get the eggs and sperm but then you lose your fish.

Yeahhhhh not a big fan of that idea lol but it's true.

fishbreeder 02-14-2011 07:24 AM

u can cross breed platys and swords and guppys and endlers but thatsa the only fish that i know will crossbreed

nayrz 02-14-2011 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fishbreeder (Post 590034)
u can cross breed platys and swords and guppys and endlers but thatsa the only fish that i know will crossbreed

Ah some information, thank you for adding.
I bet they all 4 would be able to cross breed, unless that's what you meant.
In any case, perhaps when I get my one room moved around to fit a 150, I have a large old computer desk that has space for probably 2-3 tanks to sit on it so I may make an "experimental tank" and try to cross breed the fish you mentioned, as they are small and usually cheap, plus colorful and nice to look at. If they don't crossbreed oh well I've got some nice fish lol.

Christople 02-21-2011 09:49 AM

Tose fish will cross breed by choice and you will still something not so unusual. I would want to see an cichlid and catfish cross breed

tah1795 02-21-2011 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Christople (Post 596929)
Tose fish will cross breed by choice and you will still something not so unusual. I would want to see an cichlid and catfish cross breed

The fish have to be related in some way. If not there is almost no chance the egg and sperm will be able to unite, just too different.


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