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syntac 06-01-2007 03:32 PM

New Tank with (possible) Ich Infestation
 
Hey all,

I recently acquired a 30g tank secondhand that came with the top cover and a light. I cleaned out the tank, bought a filter and air pump (both tetra brand) and a rock substrate. I also got 4 live plants and a piece of driftwood from the local fish store. I went out and got some feeder goldfish to get the tank 'jump started' and speed up the whole break-in cycle. However, I realize I was a little too hasty in the entire process. I believe the fish have an Ich breakout as the majority of the fish are holding their fins close to their body, have trouble breathing, are twitching occasionally, and one of the goldfish has extensive white spots all over its body (including the eye).

My main concern now is that the ich will attach to the plants/driftwood and any future fish I add to the tank (once everything is settled and ready) will be infected. What would you do in this situation to try and preserve what is in the tank now?

(I realize I made a big mistake doing all of this so quickly so please keep comments constructive. This is my first tank and well I got a little excited. Lesson learned.)

amber2218 06-01-2007 03:43 PM

hiya! defo sounds like white spot (ich) ... well I used to have an 88ltr and a couple of my fish got it too, I used king british white spot control. when the problem had cleared up, I did a 20% water change with gravel vac and then renewed the carbon filter.. Ive just had a new tank (2nd hand) and just keeping an eye out at the mo.. gd luck! xx

syntac 06-01-2007 04:52 PM

I'll head to the store tomorrow and see if I can pick up some medicine for them. If however they don't make it much longer, if I let the tank sit for a week or two with nothing in it (besides the plants) will the ich die on its own or will I still have to treat the water before introducing new fish? In the meantime I'm going to vacuum the rocks and hope for the best. Thanks for the reply!

GW 06-01-2007 06:06 PM

Way more than you ever wanted to know
about (Freshwater) ICH

http://www.netpets.com/fish/healthspa/ich.html

Lupin 06-01-2007 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syntac
I'll head to the store tomorrow and see if I can pick up some medicine for them. If however they don't make it much longer, if I let the tank sit for a week or two with nothing in it (besides the plants) will the ich die on its own or will I still have to treat the water before introducing new fish?

Ich will die without hosts. I doubt your goldfish will live very long if you treat them while they struggled under the presence of ammonia and nitrites, both of which are toxic to them.

mHeinitz57 06-09-2007 04:45 PM

I would get rid of the cheap goldfish and let the tank sit for several days. Ich will implant itself in bogwood and plants and even the filter cartridge but without a host fish, it will not survive for long. I would reccommend taking the fish out, bump up the heater temperature past 80F to speed up the Ich reproductive cycle, and treat the tank with a mild ich medication for maybe a week. Take the filter media out completely because carbon will remove the medication and you will want to change the filter media anyways.

The problem I see most when people start with goldfish is that they buy too many because they are so cheap. At 10-25 cents a peice, it's hard to be conservative. Are you planning on making it a goldfish tank or do you plan to go with trobical freshwater? Goldfish have a higher metabolism than most fish and therefore produce more ammonia. With no bacteria established, that ammonia builds up quick and can cause major health problems. I'm sorry you had to learn your lesson this way but for the next time, just start with a few strong fish (danios are perfect) and let them sit tight for about a month. Adding bacterial supplements (Cycle, Stability and BioSprira) will speed the process up a little bit. I actually was able to cycle my 47 gallon in about 2 weeks with 3 giant danios and Stability by Seachem. If you want to try and keep some of the goldfish you can but you will want to get rid of them at some point if you want to do tropical freshwater.


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