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ginagv 02-05-2011 03:05 AM

MTS Snails.. ok I give.. enough is enough
My MTS have become too much to handle.. At night, there are more than I can count. I like the idea of the service they provide in keeping the sand and gravel areated, but there must be something I can do to control it. I know you are all gonna say well you are obviously overfeeding.. I'm not. The problem is I have many bottom feeders and they seem to eat more nocturnally and the snails are getting to the algae wafers before the otos can.

Do 100s of MTS have a big bioload? Is there any kind of reasonably sized fish that can deal with them and their hard shells successfully? My tank is 55 gallons and pretty much at its stocking limits. Until my 4 angels pair off and I can return 2 of them I'm stuck.. I don't know when you get a first clue when they have paired off, nor do I really know what to look for, but since they are quarter sized, I figured I had time to read up.

I got an assassin snail today... but I havent seen him since this morning.. Many of the MTS are bigger than he is anyway.. Should I go out and buy more of them? I don't want to get rid of one infestation to only get a new one.

I read Clown loaches do well with MTS but I know they need groups and grow huge.. so they are not suitable..arrgh

ideas anyone?


willow 02-05-2011 03:45 AM

since my yoyo loaches and my clown loaches had an unfortunate death,i had no real problem
with MTS,however now they are gone,i have an explosion of them.
they get into the filter and everywhere i find.
shame you are stocked because you could add a couple of loaches,not the clowns but perhaps someone could help with a loach that stays small ?
your other option would be lettuce leaves,and remove them with the snails attached,
see and remove.painfully slow however just an option to look at.

Kazzy 02-05-2011 04:01 AM

I'd just get more assassins. They don't breed like MTS. They are carnivorous, so pickier about food than MTS. They also are not hermaphrodites. They aren't easily sexed though. The survival rate for the babies is low as well.

Only problem is you do have to feed them snails.

ginagv 02-05-2011 06:25 AM

well they won't run out of MTS any time soon.. good grief.. I'll go buy more, then once the population is down I'll take all but one or 2 back..

thanks guys.


Lupin 02-05-2011 06:30 AM

Imagine that. You'll need a large number of assassin snails to make a big dent on the MTS population. And assassin snails work in pairs or groups to take down snails much bigger than them. They will be unable to consume snails that are less than half their size unfortunately.

Try baiting them with lettuce and remove the ones you see manually. It'll help reduce their number a bit. Use a hammer or rock to crush them and feed to your fish.

ginagv 02-05-2011 07:18 AM

so would a couple of loaches of some form be better? I could maybe squeeze in 2 depending upon size


Lupin 02-05-2011 09:24 AM

I don't advocate using fish as a means to get rid of the snails. Are the angels the only ones in your 55g?

ginagv 02-05-2011 11:26 AM

no.. I have other fish.

Im going to go out and get a few more assassin snails. They should take care of them well enough.. I don't want to add any more fish.



aunt kymmie 02-05-2011 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Lupin (Post 580627)
I don't advocate using fish as a means to get rid of the snails. Are the angels the only ones in your 55g?

I agree with this. Luckily for me I adore loaches and four different species in two of my five tanks. I have zero, not even one, snail in the tanks the loaches are in. Dwarf chain loaches (Yasuhikotakia sidthimunki) stay very small, are incredibly cute, are fun to watch, and get along with everyone. They are voracious snail eaters.
They need to be in a group, minimum of five, as these fish are very social and require their own kind in order to thrive.
I put an Assasin snail in my 6gl shrimp farm tank a few weeks back. The MTS in there were plentiful and I have seen the numbers dwindle. I find the Assasin snail to be a very pretty snail.

Chicklet 02-05-2011 03:24 PM

Assassin snails are the perfect little tank mate for dealing with unwanted small snails,

as you stated being more then you can count at night on the walls,
Take a fish net and run it up the walls all over the tank, the snails will fall into the net allowing you to catch an extreme lots of them in a very short time.

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