Tropical Fish Keeping - Aquarium fish care and resources

Tropical Fish Keeping - Aquarium fish care and resources (http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/)
-   Beginner Planted Aquarium (http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/beginner-planted-aquarium/)
-   -   How long will these last just floating in water until I can plant them? (http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/beginner-planted-aquarium/how-long-will-these-last-just-59265/)

CrankyFish84 01-07-2011 04:52 PM

How long will these last just floating in water until I can plant them?
 
Will a few days be ok?? I don't want them to all die on me. :( I thought I could have time to do all the plantings and moving tanks around today but I didn't :/ ... grrr.... So now I have some plants in a bucket filled with old tank water from a water change I just did...and a preset tetra heater so the temp is about 74-75.
Some of the other bunches are floating in my betta's tanks (temps 78-80) I bought too many lol I can't float them ALL in the betta's tank or they'd have no room to move.

The plants are...Hygrophila "Angustifolia", Ludwigia, Moneywort, Brazilian Pennywort, Subulata (sag & dwarf), and Wisteria.

Thanks for your help!!! ;-)

aunt kymmie 01-07-2011 05:12 PM

I can't begin to tell you how many times I place an order for plants, they arrive and darn it all, I don't have the time to plant them for a few more days. I always put them in a bucket (loosely) with a heater. Once I had to keep plants in a bucket for nearly two weeks and that time I also placed a light over the bucket, and added an airstone. They did just fine.

CrankyFish84 01-07-2011 06:01 PM

aunt kymmie - Thank you for your fast reply! I was freaking out LoL :shock:
Ok so I also found some 5 gallon tanks & an 8 gallon in the garage (all with stock lights),
so that helps. Do you think they will be ok w/o a filter or airstone for a few days??
I didnt realize the plants would be so darn big & lush...I assumed they'd be tiny
or short baby plants...The sellers did a great job growing & packaging them for me! :)

Calmwaters 01-07-2011 06:16 PM

I would not put a filter or an air stone the plants do not need either of them. I ordered some plants for my moms tank and kept them in a bucket with just water and a desk lamp shinning on them for over a week until I could get them to her house.

CrankyFish84 01-07-2011 07:28 PM

The plants I picked I choose because they all said "Fast Growing" and "Stem based"... So my plans are
for some 5G Natural Planted Tanks that won't need a mechanical filter system once they take root...My bettas always freak during water changes, no matter how super gentle I remove them (via the suck into a cup method, not using a net)...and their tails either "blow out", or they nibble them...I feel bad but a bitten tail is better than ammonia poisoning. :-(

I have 3 cycled 10 gallons (one divided), those guys I don't remove for changes since it's only
required 50% once a week. The others (2-5gs) w/ no filters all need 100% changes often.
Whoever said fish were EASY to care for...well...they never had to lug around as many water bottles as I do every 2-4 days. But they are so darn cute!

Byron 01-08-2011 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrankyFish84 (Post 553587)
The plants I picked I choose because they all said "Fast Growing" and "Stem based"... So my plans are
for some 5G Natural Planted Tanks that won't need a mechanical filter system once they take root...My bettas always freak during water changes, no matter how super gentle I remove them (via the suck into a cup method, not using a net)...and their tails either "blow out", or they nibble them...I feel bad but a bitten tail is better than ammonia poisoning. :-(

I have 3 cycled 10 gallons (one divided), those guys I don't remove for changes since it's only
required 50% once a week. The others (2-5gs) w/ no filters all need 100% changes often.
Whoever said fish were EASY to care for...well...they never had to lug around as many water bottles as I do every 2-4 days. But they are so darn cute!

I'm not understanding why you need a 100% water change. [Presumably that is why you are removing the Betta.] I would suggest not changing all the water each time, but at most 75%, though 50% weekly should suffice in any tank unless there is something very wrong.

CrankyFish84 01-08-2011 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byron (Post 554034)
I'm not understanding why you need a 100% water change. [Presumably that is why you are removing the Betta.] I would suggest not changing all the water each time, but at most 75%, though 50% weekly should suffice in any tank unless there is something very wrong.

Ok so, The reason I started doing 100% changes on the unfiltered/unplanted/no substrate tanks (they just have a heater & a betta log in them, and are sizes 2 to 5 gallons)...Is because some people on the forum said 50% changes would not remove all the ammonia residue. So that scared me & now I rinse the whole inside (and heater/betta log) of those tanks with hot water to make sure I get it all off.
Is this info incorrect?? I know people have their own ways of doing things & respect that, but sometimes I get conflicting information. :-?

Now, on the filtered & cycled & planted tanks, I do 50% once a week.
I don't remove these guys during those changes, except if I have to rearrange a decoration or planting.

Byron 01-08-2011 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrankyFish84 (Post 554125)
Ok so, The reason I started doing 100% changes on the unfiltered/unplanted/no substrate tanks (they just have a heater & a betta log in them, and are sizes 2 to 5 gallons)...Is because some people on the forum said 50% changes would not remove all the ammonia residue. So that scared me & now I rinse the whole inside (and heater/betta log) of those tanks with hot water to make sure I get it all off.
Is this info incorrect?? I know people have their own ways of doing things & respect that, but sometimes I get conflicting information. :-?

Now, on the filtered & cycled & planted tanks, I do 50% once a week.
I don't remove these guys during those changes, except if I have to rearrange a decoration or planting.

I suspect the thinking behind such advice was that with no filter there was no place for nitrifying bacteria to colonize, and I would agree that with no substrate or plants (live or artificial) this is even more of a concern. But the fact is that the bacteria will colonize any surface under water, including the tank walls and bottom, and with only one Betta in the tank you will not have an issue with ammonia or nitrite. So, I would recommend you switch to 50% water changes in these tanks. The stress of moving the poor fish every time is to me a more important concern. Once you have live plants, even just some stem plants allowed to float (the Betta will love this, very natural), things will be even better.

On the other tanks, unless it is a major upheaval of the tanl's aquascaping, I would leave the fish in when you move decor or plants. I always do this (unless as I say it is major, like changing the substrate) and it is comical to see many of the fish inquisitively inspecting every change as soon as my hand leaves the area, and often while I am still in there. They are of course looking for food in the stuff stirred up as much as anything else. But this again is much less stressful than moving them out and back.

Byron.

shadetreeme 01-12-2011 10:18 PM

This just goes to show that you should read before you post a question. I was going to ask almost this same question...... I got a BUNCH of chain swards and have them floating in the tank waiting for my driftwood to sink. They have been floating for about a week and was getting worried..... but from what I amm seeing here I am OK.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:39 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2