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Enzo 05-16-2007 12:56 AM

plant Q:
 
should i move my plants into my new tank thats cycling right now because they thrive on nitrates or leave them in the tank theyre in?

Captain Crab 05-16-2007 07:16 AM

Thats a good question.But i would say No.Because plants tend to rot and could produce more ammonia.I also believe that when your tank is cycling you want nitrates to produce ammonia consuming bacteria.

leifthebunny 05-16-2007 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Crab
I also believe that when your tank is cycling you want nitrates to produce ammonia consuming bacteria.

Nitrates are the end product of cycling.

As for moving plants, I wouldn't recommend it. Your fish are used to the plants they have and want the cover to feel safe. Unless you didn't want the plants in the tank, then it's better than the alternative in throwing them out. Adding new plants to the new tank would probably be easier as it won't damage the existing root structure that your plants have already established in the old tank. Plus. as Captain Crab said, plants will tend to rot, and plants such as crypts tend to lose stalks when you move them.

Captain Crab 05-16-2007 11:24 AM

yes thats right the nitrates are the by-product of the ammonia consuming bacteria.they turn to gases(nitritic oxide).I guess the plants would thrive but i wouldnt disturb the delicate cycling of the tank.you might end up with a rotting plant mess.

fish_4_all 05-16-2007 12:03 PM

I would find some new plants to put in the tank. Wsiteria is an awesome nitrate sponge as well as Water sprite and Elodea/Anacharis. They would all do well in lower light if that is what you have.

You can actually set up a new tank with plants for that reason. They love nitrates but will take Nitrogen from any source including Ammonia and Nitrites. And plants do take up a lot of nitrates especially the ones listed above. With Wisteria in my tank I dose 30ppm weekly and rarely ever find more than 10ppm in the tanks when I test for it. They won't remove a lot of ammonia or nitrites but will help in a cycle to keep them down a bit.

tigger 05-16-2007 01:20 PM

If you're doing a fishless cycle, I would have said not to put plants in yet, because the addition of plants *may* prolong the cycle for the reasons that fish4all has stated and also because in a fishless cycle it's easier to keep the tank lights off (to avoid a bacterial and/or algae bloom occurring).

If you're not doing a fishless cycle then I'd add the plants as fish4all has stated.

Some planty guru's will not cycle a tank at all before adding fish because a very heavily cycled tank can cope with the ammonia etc.

Enzo 05-16-2007 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigger
If you're doing a fishless cycle, I would have said not to put plants in yet, because the addition of plants *may* prolong the cycle for the reasons that fish4all has stated and also because in a fishless cycle it's easier to keep the tank lights off (to avoid a bacterial and/or algae bloom occurring).

If you're not doing a fishless cycle then I'd add the plants as fish4all has stated.

Some planty guru's will not cycle a tank at all before adding fish because a very heavily cycled tank can cope with the ammonia etc.

a heavily cycled tank or heavily planted tank?

fish_4_all 05-16-2007 04:50 PM

Heavily planted tank

tigger 05-17-2007 11:24 AM

:oops: Yeah that's what I meant - never post after a glass (or two) of wine

I should also have added another caveat to that statement - a lot of planty guru's tend to have a relatively light fish stock in their heavily planted tanks.


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