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bigehugedome 12-29-2010 05:20 PM

Plants not growing? Holes in Dwarf lily? What else can I add to this tank?
Ok so alot of plant questions:

1. If you look at my aquarium pics, most of my of plants have not grown. My tank has been up for about 4 months. My watersprite (right side) grew alot, and then i trimmed it, and it has never grown the same, Not sure if i did something wrong. Loaches also uproot it alot. Any advice?

2. Alot of my vals on the left died within the first month, since then there have been some new sprouts but no to much growth, I have never had to trim them or anything. Should I be expection more growth or is that about it. The spraybar is just above them so I donno if that has anything to do with it.

3. What is not pictured is my dwarf lily, which has grown so so much since I got it, i let the leaves hit the surface and grow out to make a nice shady area and i trim it ever so often, but recently it has alot of holes in it. Ill try and post a pic.

4. My red melon sword has never grown. When it was planted the leaves started to die, so I cut them out. Now there are about 4 leaves right above the gravel but the stems never started to grow. It has been this way for 3 months.

5. My java fern is crazy, especially in my 5 gallon, but how do i take out the new leaves. I read that the baby leaves will detatch themselves, but they have not, and If i try to detatch them I destroy the old leaves, is that normal?

6. My pennywort grows roots under almost every leaf, It looks bad IMO. how do I cut them once they grow to big. Also they get uprooted everyday and I dont usually replant them right away, is this an issue?

Whew sorry thats alot. I have eco-compleate substrate and dose with flourish twice a week. 6500k daylight bulb (from hardware store) on 10 hrs a day.

Also, any other plant suggestions for my tank?

bigehugedome 12-29-2010 05:25 PM

Here is a pic from today. Sorry the pennywort is all tangeld in the lilly. silly loaches make a mess, but you can maybe see some of my issues

Blaxicanlatino 12-29-2010 08:42 PM

nice lookin tank with all the problems ! lol so its a 29 gallon with only 20 watts of light above it? thats hardly enough to satisfy a corkscrew val, dwarf lilly, nor pennywort. definately increase the lighting. holes in plants is a strong indication that there is a lack of nutrients in the water. i use seachem flourish as a supplement fert in my tank and that helped me when i had holy plants (pun intended XD ) how much flourish do you dose? X drops? the pennywort is going to grow roots under the leaves. that is normal and a good sign of health :D

redchigh 12-30-2010 12:31 PM

As for the java fern.. You can't really kill it if you try.

When I got enough plantlets on a leaf, I'd just cut the end of the leaf off. They will be easy to detach once you let them get about an inch long.

Also, you can trim the rhizome to propogate java fern.

You can leave the pennywort floating if you want. When the roots get too long, just cut them off.

I agree you need more nutrients- go get some flourish comprehensive. More light couldn't hurt, but I'm not sure thats your main issue.

Byron 01-01-2011 11:46 AM

I pretty much agree with both former responses. I note you do use Flourish, I assume this is the Flourish Comprehensive? That is sufficient.

Some plants need more light than others, and will grow slowly as a result. I also agree your tank looks nice; I wouldn't worry. I have much the same issues in various tanks, for the same reason (light). One suggestion to boost this with the existing fixture would be to get a Life-Glo T8 tube. Hagen makes the "-Glo" series, and the Life-Glo comes in two types, straight Life-Glo and the Life-Glo 2. I use the latter (bought a bunch at 1/5 cost when a local store closed) but I also have used the regular Life-Glo. This one has a special coating on half the inside of the tube to further direct/focus light out the other half, so properly inserted it is more intense light. These tubes last 2-3 years, so the initial higher cost is not too bad considering the life. This would increase the light a bit. But alternatively, leave what you have, and use plants that do better with that light. Swords will be fine, except for the red-leaf types (need more light)--I have the same exact issue with my red-leaf Echinodorus. But I do not want more light, so I compromise.


redchigh 01-06-2011 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by Byron (Post 547846)
I use the latter (bought a bunch at 1/5 cost when a local store closed) but I also have used the regular Life-Glo. This one has a special coating on half the inside of the tube to further direct/focus light out the other half, so properly inserted it is more intense light.

You can also use metallic duct tape (the shiny metal type) on one side of the bulb. Works similiarly and is cheaper.

I did that for one of my indoor greenhouses for a little while before CFLs were affordable.

bigehugedome 01-15-2011 11:59 PM

Thanks guys, I dont really think I have problems really I love my tank, just seeing how I can approve. I dose what ever is on the bottle twice a week (yes floursih comp.) I will take a look into a nice bulb at some point. Thanks

bigehugedome 01-20-2011 08:29 PM

Ok, it came to me. It's hard to tell from this picture but the left side is very bare , so i was thinking, if I can somehow cover up part of that back wall with a type of moss it would add a lot to the tank.

Now I can't really describe this well but bare with me. If I can use rocks or wood to create a back wall without loosing a lot of depth in the tank then I can attach the moss and make a wall. I don't really like the whole plastic mesh moss wall. I don't want it to look like a perfect square. Does this make sense to anyone? And if so, any ideas to make it happen.

redchigh 01-21-2011 10:03 AM

Well, it would be way too complicated... I'd just find a noce stem plant.
Stargrass would look well. (easy to grow, doesn't shed leaves at all..)

Byron 01-21-2011 06:57 PM

Another thought: having a vista through to the back wall can add a real sense of depth to an aquarium. I usually try to have one point at which I can sort-of see the back, not a large area, but just a bit; sort of like a pathway leading through the substrate plants. As long as the back wall covering (outside) is plain, say black (not shiny) or dark, even a dark not bright picture backdrop, this works well as you really don't see it.

On my three large tanks I have scenes, underwater Amazon scapes with rock boulders and a large tree trunk. I never notice any of this, but in the one or two spots where I can see it, it is amazing how it "disappears" but creates the illusion of more beyond. The trick is to get very "sedate" scenes, nothing shiny or with bright plants, as this will always detract. Something very dull, dark colours works.


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