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SinCrisis 12-17-2010 09:28 AM

Anti-Malaysian Trumpet Snail fish?
 
Hey all, i was wondering if anyone could give me suggestions on a fish that will naturally prey on Malaysian Trumpet Snails? I know trumpets are harder to prey on because of their trap door, but i want to keep something that will act as a natural population limiter.

aunt kymmie 12-17-2010 09:37 AM

I keep loaches and I do not have one snail in any of my loach tanks. I can drop MTS in those tanks and find the empty shells a few days later. Dwarf Chains are especially voracious snail eaters, even with MTS. I have no idea how that little loach gets past that trap door but they do. Same with my clowns and yoyos, but those loaches grow too big for most people's tanks.

redchigh 12-17-2010 09:54 AM

population limiter? Mail them to me! I want more!

Assassins come to mind- they're less likely to eradicate them... I think they're what you had in mind. They'll eat about a snail a day.

1077 12-17-2010 10:16 AM

+one for assassin snails. I keep both clown loaches and Yo-yo loaches and they take care of the larger trumpet snails but cannot seem to get the flesh from inside the very small ones.I prolly got a couple gazillion Well,,,maybe a couple hundred in a 75 gallon, but when gravel vaccuming,,there isn't any crud to speak of that comes up into the syphon.;-)

SinCrisis 12-17-2010 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by aunt kymmie (Post 536624)
I keep loaches and I do not have one snail in any of my loach tanks. I can drop MTS in those tanks and find the empty shells a few days later. Dwarf Chains are especially voracious snail eaters, even with MTS. I have no idea how that little loach gets past that trap door but they do. Same with my clowns and yoyos, but those loaches grow too big for most people's tanks.

By dwarf loach do you mean the dwarf chain loaches? I heard that those are not snail eating? Also i believe the dwarf chain loaches are now considered endangered and very hard to find for sale. I was hoping for this answer though since i really like the dwarf chain loaches...

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Originally Posted by redchigh (Post 536628)
population limiter? Mail them to me! I want more!

Assassins come to mind- they're less likely to eradicate them... I think they're what you had in mind. They'll eat about a snail a day.

I have, literally hundreds. My fish stock, using AQadvisor calculations is 44 percent. with my snails its 98% and thats a low estimate for number of snails. However most of them are small, i do not know where the adults are. I have hundreds of small snails come out at night and take over my decor but they are all small.

Is it safe to order them online at this time of the year? for both loaches and snails?

@1077 - I cannot keep clown loaches or yoyo loaches, the clowns get too big and yoyos require a shoal and my tnak is too small to support that.

aunt kymmie 12-17-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SinCrisis (Post 536648)
By dwarf loach do you mean the dwarf chain loaches? I heard that those are not snail eating? Also i believe the dwarf chain loaches are now considered endangered and very hard to find for sale. I was hoping for this answer though since i really like the dwarf chain loaches...

Yes, Dwarf Chain Loaches (Yasuhikotakia sidthimunki) are great at eating MTS, even the small MTS. I have a shoal of eight of them and I'm always finding teeny tiny empty MTS shells on the bottom of the tank. I propogate plants in a smaller 6gl (that has lots of MTS) and when a cutting finally has a good enough root system I transplant it over to the 75. My little loaches are more than happy to find the hitchhikers and do away with them, lol.
I had no idea they were endangered?? How sad.

SinCrisis 12-17-2010 07:59 PM

unfortunatly, according to this site: Dwarf Loach (Yasuhikotakia sidthimunki) — Loaches Online

They are considered endangered. This site also says 5 is the minimum, is that true? Im not so sure i have space for 5, i was hoping to get around 3...


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