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KatG 12-10-2010 04:14 PM

Possible to quarantine 6 Tiger Barbs for 24 - 72 hrs with no other tank?
 
I was given 4 Tiger Barbs by a well-meaning friend, read they need to be kept in schools of 6+, so got two more. After there were 6 of them, they were fine with my 5 Corys and a Hoplo Catfish.

I recently added 3 more Corys and the Tiger Barbs have started nipping at the fins of the Corys (presumably because the "others" now outnumber the Barbs?). Today I notice that they're actually causing fin damage, so I've found a new home for the Barbs with a friend who already has a school of 8 (so they'll be happy and well cared for). The problem is that my friend can't get them for 24 - 72 hrs. I don't want any harm to come to the Barbs, but I also can't stand watching them harass the Corys, especially now that I know they're actually injuring my other very peaceful, unassuming fish. :cry:

I have a feeling that the advice will be to just 'ride it out' until the Barbs leave, but I need to at least ask to see if anyone has an idea: Is there any safe way to quarantine 6 Tiger Barbs for 24 - 72 hrs without another tank?

I have two ideas. Any input about if these will work or not without stressing them TOO much (obviously any changes will irritate them) will be valued. And so would any other ideas.

FYI: Adding Barbs to my existing school is not an option because my tank will be over-stocked. Getting another tank is not an option because I don't have the space for one... enter friend with existing school of Barbs.

I read that they can only be 'bagged' for about 12 hrs safely and you're not supposed to feed them for a couple of days and I fed them this morning.

Idea 1) I have a bucket (about 10L / 2.5 US Gal) that I use for water changes. I could put them in there with existing tank water. I don't have a filter/ aerator for it though. I also don't have a heater for it, but I don't mind keeping my place warmer than usual. How long could they survive safely in that environment? What about if i did water changes? If that would work, then how much should I safely change and how often?

Idea 2) I have a largeish clear glass vase (about 3L/ .8 US Gal), I was thinking of putting them in there with some mesh on the top and submerging the vase back in the tank. They wouldn't have a ton of space (but they're also not that big), but they'd have the advantage of the heater and filter/ aeration.

Am I crazy for even trying this? Maybe it's best to just wait it out?

Ugh. This sucks. :-(

BEARitone 12-10-2010 06:20 PM

Is there any way you could buy or make a temporary tank divider? Or a larger breeding net might work too. I am just concerned that the vase would be too stressful, but I am not completely sure.

If you had a bigger bucket with a heater it would probably be ok, but it seems kind of small for 6 barbs, even if they are small.

tanker 12-10-2010 07:06 PM

There's a difference between 24 and 72 hours. Can you deliver them to your friend's? Is there any way to get a firmer idea of when she'll come?

The decision is whether to stress the barbs and potentially cause them harm from stress or to let your cories be harmed by the attacks from the barbs. I love cories so I'd choose to protect the cories over the potential harm to the barbs. Sorry barbs :-(

If it was going to be 24 hours, I'd definitely remove the fish and stick them in the bucket, but I wouldn't put them all in a 10-litre bucket. I've got bigger buckets (25 litres?) than that so I'd put them in my bigger bucket - If I were you, I'd buy a bigger bucket, or 2 (or more 10-litre buckets). It can be handy to have for these types of situations. I'd also buy a heater(s) and put an airpump in the bucket.

My platies went into my big buckets when I upgraded their tank and they were ok - but they do not fight. Because you know that your barbs are nippy, I'd keep a close eye on them to make sure they don't murder each other - if they started being aggressive, I'd have another bucket ready and separate them again, or put a couple in a breeding net (or a fish net) in the main tank.

Maybe you could start by isolating a couple in fish nets in the main tank to change the dynamic. If that doesn't work, try fishing a few out and sticking them into the bucket. If that doesn't work, fish them all out into the bucket. If they start to fight, fish some out of the bucket and put them back in the main tank (if it's a territorial aggression, that might stop it).... You get the picture - I haven't a clue, but I'd do something to get them away from my cories:lol:

The whole thing sounds like a pain in the neck.....

BEARitone 12-10-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tanker (Post 531666)

The whole thing sounds like a pain in the neck.....


Tiger barbs always are.

KatG 12-10-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tanker (Post 531666)
The decision is whether to stress the barbs and potentially cause them harm from stress or to let your cories be harmed by the attacks from the barbs. I love cories so I'd choose to protect the cories over the potential harm to the barbs. Sorry barbs :-(

I agree. But it really sucks because it's not like it's the Barb's fault nor did they ask to get purchased. They're just doing what they do. Again, it was a well meaning friend (Catfish aren't that pretty but OOOoh, those stripey things are!). Unfortunately I didn't know enough at the time to send him back to the store.

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Originally Posted by tanker (Post 531666)
If it was going to be 24 hours, I'd definitely remove the fish and stick them in the bucket, but I wouldn't put them all in a 10-litre bucket. I've got bigger buckets (25 litres?) than that so I'd put them in my bigger bucket - If I were you, I'd buy a bigger bucket, or 2 (or more 10-litre buckets). It can be handy to have for these types of situations. I'd also buy a heater(s) and put an airpump in the bucket.

It looks as if their new 'dad' will come tomorrow, and it's too late to get a bigger bucket/ pump at this point. I have two buckets about the same size but one isn't 'guaranteed' soap (or whatever) free. Do you know of a way to neutralize any stuff that might be in the bucket to make sure it's safe? Like vinegar or Oxyclean or something?

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Originally Posted by tanker (Post 531666)
The whole thing sounds like a pain in the neck.....

Ya think?!:-(

Another thought, does anyone know if turning out the lights help at all?

KatG 12-11-2010 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tanker (Post 531666)
Maybe you could start by isolating a couple in fish nets in the main tank to change the dynamic.

Unfortunately their adoptive 'dad' never showed today, so I've isolated the one who seemed to be the most aggressive in a net that's submerged. It hasn't stopped the problem, but at least it's reduced it for now. He's not too happy though:-(

tanker 12-11-2010 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KatG (Post 532415)
He's not too happy though:-(

Tough. If you can't play nicely with the other little fishies, that's what you get. :-D

SinCrisis 02-16-2011 08:42 AM

bringing back an old thread, but I was wondering if a new home for the barbs was ever found or if you found a solution to the aggression?

Blabomb 02-16-2011 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SinCrisis (Post 591855)
bringing back an old thread, but I was wondering if a new home for the barbs was ever found or if you found a solution to the aggression?

I spy a gravedigger :P

SinCrisis 02-16-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Blabomb (Post 591955)
I spy a gravedigger :P

Haha, well im actually having aggression issues with a couple of my fish and was wondering if putting them up for adoption was the only solution or if the OP found a way to get her tiger barbs to behave nicer to the other tankmates.


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