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Mating Slinkys 05-06-2007 04:48 PM

stocking levels...
 
Right, i've got my new 30g tank all set up, an i'm about to start cycling it - time to think about inhabitants...

what has to go in: 2 angels (currently about 5cm/2" across)

What i might put in cos i like them: 2 Kribs from another tank.
1 Big Spot Plec " " "

What i'd Like to go with it: Some blue rams


Given i already have the angels and they need a new home they are definitely gonna go in there, i like the Kribs and they get on well with the angels, so i'd like to move them too, the plec is getting big and could use a new home. and i think that the rams are just lovely.

Questions:

How many of each would be suitable, if it's not gonna be hugely overstocked

What order should they go in, will the angels get territorial if they go in first.

Are these suitable tankmates, if not, what would be.

There is/will be plenty of hidey holes, and the substrate is dark sand.


Sorry for the flurry of questions, i'm new to cic's and don't want to mess up and have unhappy fish, so i'm asking everything i can!

tangy 05-06-2007 05:20 PM

from what i know you place aggressive fish last cause if they go in first they claim your tank and will attack new commers

leifthebunny 05-06-2007 06:46 PM

Also, wait until you're fully cycled before moving the angels, they have low tolerance for the ammonia/nitrite spikes. Even when you do move them over, I would recommend just move the angels to prevent too much of a spike during a mini cycle.

Mating Slinkys 05-06-2007 08:44 PM

Thanks Tangyman, that's pretty much what i thought; nice to have it confirmed!

Mr(s) thebunny, do you mean only put angels in it, or just the move angels from the other tank and not the Kribs or the plec. I wasn't gonna move them all across at once, i was gonna do the standard "2 fish, leave it a week or so, 2 more etc" thing cos i was under the impression that that'll avoid a mini cycle - but tell me if i'm wrong!

I'm planning on cloning the other tank anyway, for a faster cycle, dunno if that'll make a difference.

tangy 05-06-2007 09:19 PM

if you "seed" the tanks with some of the smaller tanks material(gravel,water ect.) than there is a chance the cycling process will speed up by 2-3 weeks.

leifthebunny 05-06-2007 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mating Slinkys
Mr(s) thebunny, do you mean only put angels in it, or just the move angels from the other tank and not the Kribs or the plec. I wasn't gonna move them all across at once, i was gonna do the standard "2 fish, leave it a week or so, 2 more etc" thing cos i was under the impression that that'll avoid a mini cycle - but tell me if i'm wrong!

I'm planning on cloning the other tank anyway, for a faster cycle, dunno if that'll make a difference.

Though I have long hair, it's Mr. ;)

My recommendation is to move the fish over slowly. I would start with the pleco first and use algae wafers & zuchini until there is ample algae. The pleco is by far the heavier ammonia producers of the lot and most are pretty hearty fish. I've got mixed emotions about recommending kribs before the angelfish (from aggression standpoint as above), but it's likely safer to have the angelfish go through less mini cycles. If you have Bio-Spira (sp?) or similar (my LFS carries NitroMax which I've had success with), I would add some the day after each fish group is added.


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