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kaythenewbie 11-13-2010 10:28 AM

Python No Spill
Has anyone used Python's No-Spill-Clean-And-Fill before? I'm pretty sick of using buckets, so I was wondering if it was a good option. Right now, I have a 20 gal. long, but I'm thinking about getting a 55-60 gal soon, so buckets won't really work when I upgrade.

The main thing I'm wondering about is the water conditioner. Python's website says that it's not needed, but I wouldn't dream of adding water without conditioner. What's the best way to add it while using a Python? Or is it not possible to do?

zof 11-13-2010 03:59 PM

I use a similar aquaeon product as the python, and its great, I don't think I've ever played bucket brigade since I've had it.

I think the important things when using a product like this is to get your temperature coming out of the tap with in 2-3 degrees of what the tank temp is, this can be done by using a thermometer with a probe, then get your water conditioner ready, prime seems to be very fast acting and work really well for this type of setup. Add your water conditioner to the tank and flip the switch on the faucet and add your water.

I don't know why Pythons website says its not needed but, you should always use a good water conditioner. Prime says to use the full amount of the tank in water condition if doing it like this but I always just split the difference between the amount of water I'm changing and the full tank volume. Such as - 20 gallon tank, doing a 10 gallon water change, I would use 1.5ml of prime (equals 15 gallons). A oral syringe you pick up at a drug store is good to use with this small amount of product.

jeaninel 11-13-2010 08:56 PM

I use a Python and love it. I add the conditioner to the tank just before I add in the clean water or during refilling. It works pretty much instantly and never had any problems doing it this way.

badxgillen 11-13-2010 11:38 PM

and dont forget that if the tank is lower than the faucet it can cause minor issues with syphoning...besides that they are awsome...

tanker 11-13-2010 11:54 PM

I refill my tanks with a hose and I dose with Prime for the whole tank immediately before I start adding the water.

kaythenewbie 11-14-2010 12:10 AM

Sweet! Thanks for the replies. Looks like I now know what I'm asking for for Christmas :lol:

tanker 11-14-2010 02:24 AM

Do you have lots of water there in Utah? We have been in drought here and have water restrictions. I didn't want to send the drained tank water down the sink as shown in the python video (I've actually never seen the python here in the shops, so I'm not sure whether it's even available), so I use a hose to drain the tank with the end of the hose out on the garden. I've found it a good alternative for saving a bit of water.

badxgillen 11-14-2010 01:51 PM

yeah yeah
me too....the gravity feed i get going outside gets a better suction...and i had some of the nicest tomatoes from all those nitrites and nitrates....recycling...

SinCrisis 11-18-2010 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by badxgillen (Post 512855)
me too....the gravity feed i get going outside gets a better suction...and i had some of the nicest tomatoes from all those nitrites and nitrates....recycling...

Haha i use my water for patches of dead grass... now my lawn is so full... not thanks to the landscapers and their chemical ferts.

Ostara 11-18-2010 05:32 PM

Have you tried looking at your Walmart, Kay? I bought a Lee's water changer there for $28 instead of whatever Python charges. The parts are identical to the Python (literally from the same molds upon comparison) except the Lee's changer is blue instead of green. I was about to order the Python online when I found it, so I was thrilled to save some cash. :)

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