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Nykki 10-25-2010 02:49 PM

Assortment ideas please?
 
Hi,
I've spent all day on the net looking for ideas for my 250L tank.
At present i have:
2 Blk Tetras
2 Female Swordtails
1 Male Swordtail
2 Neon Rainbows
6 Neon Tetras
1 Male guppie (the red claw crabs ate the rest in the previous tank, hence no more crabs!)

We have bogwood, rocks and plants too. Our tank is not fully cycled yet so im not in a rush i'm just trying decided on what to go with. I'm looking for an interesting range, ie, shrimps, Bottom dwellers, aquatic frogs along with some really interesting and pretty colour fish. If anyone has some ideas or concerns with my surgested set up i'd really love to hear from you.

Thankyou
Nikki :-)

thefishboy 10-26-2010 06:58 AM

Maybe u could get a slightly larger group of Neon Tetras because the larger the group the less stressed they are and the more natural behaviuor they display.?

Byron 10-28-2010 02:38 PM

Hi Nikki, and welcome to Tropical Fish Keeping forum.

I agree with thefishboy on increasing the tetra numbers and for the same reason; but first, what are your water parameters? This is the hardness and pH (and temperature, though that is adjustable easily). The source water (presumably tap water) will have a specific hardness and pH, and knowing these numbers will make it easier to select fish that are suitable. You can find this info out from your water people, some have websites. Once we know the numbers, it will be eaiser to suggest compatible fish.

Byron.

Nykki 10-28-2010 04:22 PM

Hiya,
And thankyou for taking the time to reply. I got these numbers from the website.. Not sure whats really useful so i've posted the lot!:-D
All the water is treated with AquaSafe too.

Hardness LevelModerately HardHardness Clark11Hardness French16Hardness German9Aluminium8.84Chloride42.09Chlorine0.16Coliform bacteria0Colour0.46Conductivity348E.coli bacteria0Fluoride0.07Iron10.58Manganese1.67Nitrate27.7Odour0Pesticides0pH7.66Sodium12.88Taste0Plumbing Metals Copper0.01Lead0.54Nickel0.91


As for the water at present in my tank, i'll be going to the fish shop in a few days where they will test it for me.
Many thanks
Nikki

Byron 10-28-2010 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nykki (Post 501879)
Hiya,
And thankyou for taking the time to reply. I got these numbers from the website.. Not sure whats really useful so i've posted the lot!:-D
All the water is treated with AquaSafe too.

Hardness LevelModerately HardHardness Clark11Hardness French16Hardness German9Aluminium8.84Chloride42.09Chlorine0.16Coliform bacteria0Colour0.46Conductivity348E.coli bacteria0Fluoride0.07Iron10.58Manganese1.67Nitrate27.7Odour0Pesticides0pH7.66Sodium12.88Taste0Plumbing Metals Copper0.01Lead0.54Nickel0.91


As for the water at present in my tank, i'll be going to the fish shop in a few days where they will test it for me.
Many thanks
Nikki

Interesting numbers. I'm assuming the "German" is 9 dGH, which is medium or moderately hard, so that tallies. When you know the pH we'll be set.

Nykki 10-29-2010 12:36 PM

From the info on site the PH is 7.66.
I would asume this fluctuates from time to time?:-?

Byron 10-29-2010 01:39 PM

Ah, my fault, I overlooked the pH number.:oops:

OK, so you have medium hard, basic (pH 7 and higher) water. Livebearers will be ideal. In a 250 litre (66 gallon) tank, a small community of certain rift lake cichlids would work, this would be solely a cichlid tank. Aside from these two obvious groups, rainbowfish are a colourful option in basic water tanks, a group of 5, with some substrate fish (several manage in basic water, check our catfish profiles for some ideas). Some of the medium-sized rasbora or barbs, nothing too small with the rainbows, again shoaling fish so a small group of 6-7 of one that you like, I would suggest barbs or danio over rasbora. Not Tiger Barbs with the Rainbow (fin nippers). There are some medium sized peaceful barbs, like the Black Ruby. Barbs, danio and rasbora are in the profiles under Cyprinids. With some plants, this could be a super aquascape.

Byron.

Nykki 10-29-2010 05:19 PM

Great ideas, i'll have a good look at those examples and thankyou very much.
Would aquatic frogs do ok? Would i need to watch my choice of substrate fish if i had some frogs? I also like the idea of shrimps (yes typical girl, wanting everything)....are these an option? from what i've read there are a couple of shrimps that are good algae eaters, but then i fear they may just be a walking lunch for my fish!
Oh choices choices!! :-?
Again, many thanks honey for your ideas and time.

Nikki

Calmwaters 10-29-2010 05:36 PM

I would not suggest the frogs in that big of tank just because the have to go to the surface for air and it maybe a bit much for them to go that far. Also the african dwarf frogs have bad eye site and the food needs to be put right infront of them so they can eat it. I have 2 in a 10 gallon and they are alot of fun to watch I tried putting them in with other fish in a bigger tank but it was hard to get them the food they needed and they stayed hid alot because they were afraid of the fish. Now I have them in the 10 with a group of ember tetra and some otos and they are much more happy and active.
I also wanted to suggest golden barbs as another peaceful barb you could look at I have them in my 55 and they are very pretty and active.

Byron 10-30-2010 05:29 PM

Amanda has answered your frog question. On shrimp, that is always the risk, they can be eaten by fish large enough to consider them food. And shrimp (freshwater crustaceans) are a natural food for fish in many tropical streams. If the fish are small, shrimp would be fine; rainbows are too large. I suspect most barbs would readily feast on shrimp.


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