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paintsforyou 09-19-2006 11:24 AM

Sick Black Moores
 
I have a 20 gal tank that houses my 3 black moore goldfish. They are a little over 2 inches in size...one of them I have had for over a year and they other 2 about 4 months. Temp is 75, PH is 7.6, No nitrites or Ammonia, and Nitrates are about 20. last week I added a 1 inch pleco to the tank for the brown algae on the glass. It lasted 2 days then died. At that time I noticed one of my moores sitting on the bottom of the tank. I thought it was from over feeding/constipation so fasted them for a day then gave them peas. I had also added some Tetra Aqua Easy Balance to the water and noticed that the nitraban granuals were sticking to their slime coat. 4 days later they are still sticking. Now All moores are sitting on the bottom I have also added a new pleco just a tiny bit bigger than the last one and its day 3 for it now and it seems to be doing well. I suspected that the moores have a parasite and dosed the tank with Jungle Parasite gaurd yesterday. there dosnt seem to be
any improvement, I turned my power head up full blast and they like swiming against its current. Could the granuals be caught in their gills? The granuals makes them look like they have ICk. This AM I also added some PimaFiX incase its something bacterial. I use Aqarisol, stress coat and aquarium salt to treat my water for changes. Shouldnt the Jungle Parasite gaurd be making them feel better by now? Should I also treat for Ick at the same time? Sorry for being long winded but I really love these little guys! Any Help and suggestions will be greatly appreciated!"

joeshmoe 09-19-2006 03:01 PM

i used to have black moores ,they died of ick so i say rasie temp and add meds. :D joe

paintsforyou 09-19-2006 03:10 PM

Thanks Joe! I went and got some Ick Gaurd by Jungle and added it just now...turned my water blue but Hopfully using the Jungle Parasite Gaurd and the Ick guard wont be too much for them.

joeshmoe 09-19-2006 03:13 PM

i had the same stuff it works mine died because i was new to this and just thought wasnt harmful and learned a little to late :x

joeshmoe 09-19-2006 03:14 PM

so ya put it in for three days then change the water and do it again till its all gone

usmc121581 09-19-2006 03:19 PM

This may sound kind of stupid, if you never heard of it. Copper kills ick, I have heard and seen people putting penny's in there tank, to get rid of the ick even a LFS had told me that to.. I never tried it my self as I have a marine tank. Just don't leave them in to long. I thought it was kinda funny when I first heard that.

paintsforyou 09-19-2006 03:24 PM

Thanks for the post USMC! I know you can by meds with the copper. I already have melafix, Parasite gaurd and now Ick Gaurd in there. I hope Im not O.D-ing them!

joeshmoe 09-19-2006 03:25 PM

yup that helps they make a stuff called copper safe and this stuff thats made from coper to put in your tank ive tried it

Lupin 09-19-2006 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usmc121581
This may sound kind of stupid, if you never heard of it. Copper kills ick, I have heard and seen people putting penny's in there tank, to get rid of the ick even a LFS had told me that to.. I never tried it my self as I have a marine tank. Just don't leave them in to long. I thought it was kinda funny when I first heard that.

Copper does kill ich and so do pennies. But the problem with pennies is that they contain other heavy metals so they're no longer a suitable method for treatments.
I have to add that if you have other invertebrates including snails and shrimps, copper will kill them thus fouling your water quality.

I don't think raising temp will help coldwater fish. :dunno:
We're just killing the fish who are intolerant of high temp.:blink:
The only way is continuous treatment of meds rather than increasing the temp.

On the side note, when trying to use a different med, remove the med you currently have in your tank using a carbon. Mixing meds can be dangerous.

usmc121581 09-20-2006 07:06 AM

So you have heard of that method with the pennies to, I never knew anyone that has tried it, but thanks to blue now I know why.


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