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Blaxicanlatino 09-09-2010 08:12 PM

New tank designs. Plant advice pls :D
 
hey!!! ihavent been on in a looonnggg time!!! my tanks have been going well. All my dwarf platys have perished....funny thing is that none of the normal platys have died....0, zip, none. so im thinking that dwarf playty is just a marketing scheme to get ready of the runts of the batches of platys.

anyway.... i my first tank.. a 10 gallon, with 15 watts lighting. i think 6500K. with a small peice of wood covered in java moss (java moss nearly covers half the tank now). some moneyworts but ive had those for years and they seem to be not doing as well...or im just tired of lookig at them.

right now the substrate is this blue gravel that im also tired of lookin at lol. so im gettting ready to get a white fine sand as the substrate

the inhabitatns are a amano shrimp, male mickey mouse platy, female platy.

what plants should i get? low light, hard water... awesome owner. Lets acll this tank 1!!!

thanks for the help :D


for further note. My newer tank, going on a year old is doing very nice. 10 gallon, black flourite sand, 30 watts, 4 cherry shrimp, 2 female guppies, 1 amano srhimp. The substrate is alnost covered in microsword. and i have a ball of java moss in the tank for the cherrys (they love to bury themself in it and eat crap i guess). but the the rest of the tank looks empty...probably cause the talles plant is 1inch (mircrosword) any suggestions? and this will be tank 2 !!! :D

love you guys

Byron 09-09-2010 11:04 PM

Vallisneria grows extremely well in hard water, much better than in soft. Check out the profile of the Corkscrew Vallisneria here. It is the smallest of the genus and well suited to a 10g. It will send out runners and you will have lots of plants.

Byron.

redchigh 09-11-2010 11:16 AM

Are you dead-set on the white sand?

Fish prefer darker colors... Also, I would not get a "fine" sand... Try to get a relatively large-grain... Sandblasting sand works well, or even play sand. (I dug sand out of a sand bank, but I would advise against it.)

I've heard that hairgrass grows well in sand...
When you say hard water, what is the number? Whats the ph?

btw, I wouldn't call 1.5W per gallon low lighting. Call it moderate. :)

You can do pretty much anything with that lighting... Do you want the platies to breed? If so then shelter is a plus...


For your tank with the microsword, I think it would work well as a "Flooded plains", and use plants that 'look' terrestrial...
I'd reccomend dwarf onion plant, Cryptocoryne Cilitia, and maybe vallis for that tank.. Cryptocoryne Wendtii brown/red would add some color...

outpost 09-11-2010 10:12 PM

I would look at getting some pool filter sand. It's darker than white sand and is cheaper. A 50 lb bag is about $11. I have it in my 10 gal planted and soon to be 55. I also have zone corkscrew Val and I have hard water and it kicking ass sending out runners and stuff
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Byron 09-12-2010 12:16 PM

Darker substrates are almost always better for the fish; there are a few exceptions, but most of our fish come from dark-substrate waters and feel more natural, less exposed, and thus less stressed (= healthier) over a dark substrate. The substrate should never be pure white.

One caution on pool sand, some contains substances that may harden or otherwise affect water chemistry. Pools generally should be basic rather than acidic, so you have to be careful. If you really want sand, play sand works. I prefer gravel, smallest grain size (1-2mm) over sand as it is easier to manage. I have dark gray play sand in one tank.

Blaxicanlatino 09-12-2010 05:32 PM

sorry i never received alerts that people posted on my thread XD. an onion plant in my microsword tank? what should i know about this tank? and when its gets tall enough, wont that block alot of the lighting? what else should i put in tank 2?

and i thoought the white sand would look nice but its not important of course. I do haveowever want some form of sand.

Blaxicanlatino 09-12-2010 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redchigh (Post 469003)
Are you dead-set on the white sand?

Fish prefer darker colors... Also, I would not get a "fine" sand... Try to get a relatively large-grain... Sandblasting sand works well, or even play sand. (I dug sand out of a sand bank, but I would advise against it.)

I've heard that hairgrass grows well in sand...
When you say hard water, what is the number? Whats the ph?

btw, I wouldn't call 1.5W per gallon low lighting. Call it moderate. :)

You can do pretty much anything with that lighting... Do you want the platies to breed? If so then shelter is a plus...


For your tank with the microsword, I think it would work well as a "Flooded plains", and use plants that 'look' terrestrial...
I'd reccomend dwarf onion plant, Cryptocoryne Cilitia, and maybe vallis for that tank.. Cryptocoryne Wendtii brown/red would add some color...


dont crypt like low lighting? would 30 watts or 15 be ok?

Blaxicanlatino 09-12-2010 06:05 PM

oh and what about red ludwigia or ludwigia repens?

Byron 09-12-2010 06:31 PM

What type of light are we talking about here? You mention 10g tanks with 15w and 30w. Are these incandescent (screw-in) as opposed to fluorescent? If yes, you can use compact fluorescent bulbs, 6500K, I have 5w and 10w, made by GE I think. Two 10w over my 20g is perfect. Also works over a 10g if you can't find 5w in 6500K (I couldn't). This light will be sufficient for most plants.

Red plants need brighter light, so ensure the ludwigia is under the light, not shaded. Crypts on the other hand will do fine in shade. See the profiles of various crypt species we now have in the Profile section, second tab from the left in the blue bar at the top.

Blaxicanlatino 09-12-2010 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byron (Post 470148)
What type of light are we talking about here? You mention 10g tanks with 15w and 30w. Are these incandescent (screw-in) as opposed to fluorescent? If yes, you can use compact fluorescent bulbs, 6500K, I have 5w and 10w, made by GE I think. Two 10w over my 20g is perfect. Also works over a 10g if you can't find 5w in 6500K (I couldn't). This light will be sufficient for most plants.

Red plants need brighter light, so ensure the ludwigia is under the light, not shaded. Crypts on the other hand will do fine in shade. See the profiles of various crypt species we now have in the Profile section, second tab from the left in the blue bar at the top.


one tnak has a single 6500K 15 watt tube fluorescent light tube. THe other has 2, 15 watt compact flourescent light bulbs (30 total watts). Im putting the red ludwigia in the 30 watt tank. and the red/brown crypt in the 15 watt tank. Speakin of which, i have alot of algae on my anubias nana( located attached to a piece of wood in the 15 watt tank) . I dose a day after water change (once a week).


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